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re: Uniformed officer kicked out of Outback restaurant for carrying his weapon
Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:51 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:51 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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She said police are shooting people, and she could have gotten shot in the parking lot, and the manager had to walked her and her husband to their vehicle,"
I wonder what this woman looked like? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:16 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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citing company policy that makes Outback a gun free zone.
I know where I’ll rob if I ever get in financial straits
Posted on 6/24/23 at 11:05 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Posted on 6/24/23 at 11:09 pm to Corso
Guess you missed the part where LEO’s are required to have their sidearm on their person at all times when in uniform.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 11:27 pm to Floyd Dawg
The take home here is outback is primed for a shooting incident going forward with their 'gun free' mantra and will not have any 'good guys' with LEO or citizens packing there to diffuse potential situations. Best of luck fake Australian restaurant.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 11:41 pm to thebigmuffaletta
So, if said officer refuses to leave, do they call the armed police to come remove him, or are they on their own to settle this issue?
If the police come, do they have to leave their weapons in their vehicle before entering Outback?
Just a thought?
If the police come, do they have to leave their weapons in their vehicle before entering Outback?
Just a thought?
Posted on 6/24/23 at 11:43 pm to AquaAg84
quote:No, the "take home" is that the company apologized to the warden and gave him a gift certificate.
The take home here is outback is primed for a shooting incident going forward with their 'gun free' mantra and will not have any 'good guys' with LEO or citizens packing there to diffuse potential situations. Best of luck fake Australian restaurant.
A SANE person would read that fact as indicating that they company will be making an exception to its policy for on-duty LEOs.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 2:18 am to AggieHank86
quote:
if a property owner has a "no guns policy," EVERY patron should respect that policy. Even the game warden
just curious... but..
what if a business owner has a "no baking cakes for homosexuals" policy? should that be respected as well?
I'm guessing you'll apply it differently in that case for whatever reason. and honestly it is kind of a grey area for me.. but as a constitutionalist I don't think a business should be able to deny you your rights (in any case).
Posted on 6/25/23 at 3:11 am to thebigmuffaletta
quote:
He says a patron at another table reported being scared for her life. "She said police are shooting people, and she could have gotten shot in the parking lot, and the manager had to walked her and her husband to their vehicle,"
Probably tipped $3 on the $80 bill
Posted on 6/25/23 at 4:19 am to thebigmuffaletta
I am a huge 2A supporter.
I am a Veteran.
I own over 100 handguns.
I am a certified NRA advanced instructor and Chief Range Safety officer.
I am in agreement with the manager. Policy states it is a Gun Free zone. Everyone should have to abide by their policy as it is backed by law.
I like Outback more than Game Wardens
I am a Veteran.
I own over 100 handguns.
I am a certified NRA advanced instructor and Chief Range Safety officer.
I am in agreement with the manager. Policy states it is a Gun Free zone. Everyone should have to abide by their policy as it is backed by law.
I like Outback more than Game Wardens
Posted on 6/25/23 at 4:39 am to thebigmuffaletta
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manager had to walked her and her husband
This guy is the definition of a cuck
Posted on 6/25/23 at 5:21 am to Corso
quote:
also sounds like the game warden was trying to play billy badass wearing his gun inside a dang restaurant.
And if the joint had been robbed while he was there, do you really think it would be a great idea to be wearing a badge and not have a gun?
Posted on 6/25/23 at 5:22 am to thebigmuffaletta
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Ward said Outback contacted him and apologized. They also gave him a $100 gift card.
Hope he said, "thank you, but what good is a $100 gift card when I won't be coming back?"
Posted on 6/25/23 at 6:50 am to thebigmuffaletta
So if someone tries to rob the Outback, police are not allowed to enter the building because it’s a gun free zone? The managers a clown and should be fired.
Wonder if this was Lebrons mother making the complaint.
Wonder if this was Lebrons mother making the complaint.
This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 6:52 am
Posted on 6/25/23 at 8:24 am to tgerb8
quote:Absent a law to the contrary, yes.
if a property owner has a "no guns policy," EVERY patron should respect that policy. Even the game wardenquote:
just curious... but.. what if a business owner has a "no baking cakes for homosexuals" policy? should that be respected as well?
The problem is that Colorado had such a law. I personally despise “public accommodation“ laws for exactly this reason among others, but the people of Colorado felt differently.
And (unfortunately) SCOTUS has repeatedly upheld the constitutionality of public accommodation laws.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 8:26 am to jrobic4
quote:We have a significant number of posters who are utterly convinced that the Second Amendment guarantees your right to carry your gun onto someone else’s property. True Constitutional scholars.
Denying your rights would be taking your gun. Asking you to remove it from THEIR property is THEIR RIGHT.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 8:28 am to Broadside Bob
quote:so, in your opinion, he should stop doing business with the entire company because one local assistant manager misapplied a policy, and the company headquarters then corrected the error and apologized?
Ward said Outback contacted him and apologized. They also gave him a $100 gift card.quote:
Hope he said, "thank you, but what good is a $100 gift card when I won't be coming back?"
That seems a bit petty.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 8:32 am to Harvey Wallbanger
quote:
In the State Of Tennessee a Wildlife Resources Agency officer (Game Warden) has the exact same authority and arrest powers as a State Trooper.
They actually have a little more authority.
“However, game wardens are given more discretion when enforcing laws because of what is called the open field doctrine. In nature, animals do not follow signs that say “no trespassing” and may enter a private property that is adjacent to public lands.
In this case, game wardens are permitted to enter private property to investigate legal violations. The open field doctrine applies to any space that is not within what is called one’s curtilage, that is, the area immediately surrounding a dwelling. This means that if you have your car parked in the open field, a game warden has the authority to look in it to ensure you are following conservation laws. “
Posted on 6/25/23 at 8:37 am to Flats
quote:Do you want a game warden to go into the woods often at night to confront someone breaking game laws that is probably 100% carrying a weapon (possibly a high powered hunting rifle). Plus, he had the possibility of encountering someone who he has arrested in the past.
I said I was conflicted, not confused.
I was at a favored breakfast eatery in the recent past and probably 10 wildlife agents entered the restaurant. All toting. Didn't bother me a bit.
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