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unbelievable restored video/audio of Allied troops on November 11, 1918 (the end of WWI)
Posted on 3/17/19 at 8:33 am
Posted on 3/17/19 at 8:33 am
this is from the new doc "They Shall Not Grow Old" from "Lord of the Rings" director Peter Jackson, and as amazing as the video is its the audio that blew me away. it took me a second to even process what was going on when the Brit soldier starts talking at 0:30, its the clearest Ive ever heard by a mile, and this is actual recovered audio, not a dub or voice actor.
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 8:34 am to MastrShake
That truly is amazing. Now many of our young men would be asking for a stress relief petting zoo in those conditions.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 8:37 am to MastrShake
Incredible video. Ended in a whimper. "What to do now?"
Posted on 3/17/19 at 8:48 am to ynlvr
Were there no dentists back then?
Posted on 3/17/19 at 8:52 am to MastrShake
I read an article by an historian who spent a lot of the 1970s visiting the remaining WWI vets in America to record interviews with them before they passed.
He was amazed at one universal trait all of these old guys had. They all downplayed the conditions.
Poison gas: 'Yeah, it wasn't so bad.'
No food: 'Yeah, but it wasn't so bad.'
Wounded by bullets: 'Yeah, but it wasn't so bad.'
He concluded that this was because all of these guys were born in the 1890s in an era where complaining about anything was considered 'unmanly.' They were raised with a sense of stoicism.
He was amazed at one universal trait all of these old guys had. They all downplayed the conditions.
Poison gas: 'Yeah, it wasn't so bad.'
No food: 'Yeah, but it wasn't so bad.'
Wounded by bullets: 'Yeah, but it wasn't so bad.'
He concluded that this was because all of these guys were born in the 1890s in an era where complaining about anything was considered 'unmanly.' They were raised with a sense of stoicism.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 8:56 am to shrevetigertom
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Were there no dentists back then?
Brushing your teeth didn't hit the US until around 1900 and didn't become widely practiced until 1940. This is why so many people in your great grandfather's generation had false teeth.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 9:00 am to MastrShake
Great and thanks for posting.
At 2:05 in the posted video I noticed that the British soldiers had rifles armed with Rifle Grenades. I did not know that Infantry had Rifle Grenades in 1918.
At 2:05 in the posted video I noticed that the British soldiers had rifles armed with Rifle Grenades. I did not know that Infantry had Rifle Grenades in 1918.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 9:01 am to Deuces
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That truly is amazing. Now many of our young men would be asking for a stress relief petting zoo in those conditions.
Not everyone can be a super tough guy like you.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 9:02 am to Zach
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He was amazed at one universal trait all of these old guys had. They all downplayed the conditions.
I saw an interview once with an American pilot from WWI telling a story of a dogfight he had vs 3 Germans, a story where he nearly died every 5 words, and he told it with all the passion of reading the ingredients label on a Coke can.
he was describing his heroics in such a matter-of-fact way it was like he was actively trying not to sound heroic. and then at the end, after dropping the first 2 Germans, the 3rd made some mistake and the US pilot said, "Well, shame on him, because I was able to get back to base shortly after that." as if he'd been stuck in traffic or something.
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 9:09 am to MastrShake
That’s not restored audio...that’s a voice over by an actor to match. They used forensic lip readers and other techniques to figure out what was being said then tried to match the correct British accent based on regiment info. Great movie...if you go see it be sure to watch the making of at the end of the credits.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 9:17 am to Zach
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I read an article by an historian who spent a lot of the 1970s visiting the remaining WWI vets in America to record interviews with them before they passed. He was amazed at one universal trait all of these old guys had. They all downplayed the conditions. Poison gas: 'Yeah, it wasn't so bad.' No food: 'Yeah, but it wasn't so bad.' Wounded by bullets: 'Yeah, but it wasn't so bad.' He concluded that this was because all of these guys were born in the 1890s in an era where complaining about anything was considered 'unmanly.' They were raised with a sense of stoicism.
True, Z. "complaining" would be a form of self pity; ill-affordable character weakness in a hard scenario and counter productive irl.
Me and Wife contemplate the way we have raised our great granddaughter...a delicate flower, and angel of love. And then we look at what's around us, and Her when we are gone.
Life is infinitely bittersweet. To the degree that we experience love...we are destined to experience that degree of pain. IMO, Faith is the only antidote for that poison. But even one's (relative degree) of Faith is a matter of personal intent, character/vision and will.
Overwhelming. Thank you Jesus.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 9:17 am to MastrShake
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the US pilot said, "Well, shame on him, because I was able to get back to base shortly after that." as if he'd been stuck in traffic or something.
Yeah, another thing to consider is that these young men grew up listening to grandpa talk about his service in the Civil War. Historians have noted that some of these accounts are extremely exaggerated. IE, "Yep, there were 20 yanks coming at me and I got shot in the legs and arms 10 times or so, but I still managed to kill 10 of them with my knife until the rest ran away."
So, these kids in the trenches in WWI probably thought "Well, this ain't as bad as grandpa had it."
Posted on 3/17/19 at 9:30 am to MastrShake
My son and I went to see this movie when it came out and it was incredible. At the end of the movie there is an extra 30 minutes of how the film was made. One of the things that I had never thought about was that the reason those old videos have such choppy movements is because the person filming was actually advancing the film by hand and usually 10-12 frames per second. When this filmmaker adjusted the film speed to 24 frames per second it made the soldiers come alive on the screen.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:08 am to cwill
quote:ok, my mistake. I read somewhere that they were using restored audio and I guess I took that to mean it was all restored audio.
That’s not restored audio...that’s a voice over by an actor to match. They used forensic lip readers and other techniques to figure out what was being said then tried to match the correct British accent based on regiment info.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:10 am to MastrShake
The voice over narration by former soldiers is the restored audio.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:13 am to cwill
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That’s not restored audio...that’s a voice over by an actor to match. They used forensic lip readers and other techniques to figure out what was being said then tried to match the correct British accent based on regiment info. Great movie...if you go see it be sure to watch the making of at the end of the credits.
1st "talkie" movie was in the 1920's. Not saying that there weren't recordings before then, but you are firmly in the era of silent movies during WWI.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:20 am to highcotton2
I've been waiting for it to come to DVD.
The only DVD I've seen is on Amazon, however, according to the ad it doesn't play on US or British DVD players.
The only DVD I've seen is on Amazon, however, according to the ad it doesn't play on US or British DVD players.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:04 am to MastrShake
The audio is a BBC interview several decades later
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:48 am to Deuces
We could"nt do that today. We're too soft mentally, physically, and politically. We've been dicking around in Iraq and Afghanistan, for nearly 20 years, and unconditional surrender has never been an option.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:55 am to Deuces
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Now many of our young men would be asking for a stress relief petting zoo in those conditions.
you a veteran?
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