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re: Ukrainians have now attacked a second critical Russian nuclear early warning radar.

Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:05 pm to
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:05 pm to
NATO, not Ukraine
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133653 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:07 pm to
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then trying to defend Snopes as some credible source of journalism.

Link to where I defended Snopes as a credible source.

You can't do it. You continue to lie about...well, EVERYTHING.

I linked it without even noticing the site I was linking. It was simply the first, of many, many links, that resulted from my search. So when it was pointed out to me the link was to Snopes, I linked 3 additional, different results.

One more time, are you claiming there was no such agreement in 1994 called the Budapest Memorandum which addressed the de-nuclearization of Ukraine and provided Ukraine with territorial integrity guarantees even by Russia?

That is the REAL issue here. Stop being such a whining pussy about it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135699 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:13 pm to
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We also went over this lol.
Then the result was not what you describe
Posted by BluegrassCardinal
Kentucky
Member since Nov 2022
1746 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:15 pm to
The downvote pirates are pretty relentless on those of us that see how dangerous this is becoming.

I’m wondering if they could step away from their Pride festivities and explain why the F we need to be balls deep in Ukraine
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:21 pm to
No, the result was that the scale of international negotiation escaped you. Take for example Putin’s December 2021 ultimatum. Do you think the intent of those demands was to further talks?
Posted by BluegrassCardinal
Kentucky
Member since Nov 2022
1746 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:22 pm to
Yea, it’s the usual..

Putin’s just bluffing.
Let’s get boots on the ground.
Nuclear war ain’t so bad
Poland’s next, bro!

I think most of these war pigs post over on AR15F or Democratic Underground.

Putin does not give a care about the average US citizen, however Z dog is more than happy to drag NATO into war
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22746 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:24 pm to
Regardless of who is president, we will not just waltz away from Ukraine.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21912 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 5:03 pm to
Look we get it, you are a Russian shill and are going to rush her and indignantly pearl clutch if the Ukrainians dare to hit Russian military targets in a war that Russia started and in which they have callously killed hundreds of thousands of civilians via indiscriminate shelling of cities and terror attacks on population centers with long range missile strikes on cities, dams, power grid, water utilities, etc, etc, etc. Can you give it a rest?
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7654 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 5:20 pm to
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there is Russian propaganda out there working on our population.


In what form? The Western "Press"? Because Russian media has been banned here.

Or, does our super villain adversary have other sinister methods of carrying out said propaganda in others ways?.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22746 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 5:34 pm to
I'm not sure precisely how they chime in. But I think they can find ways into social media. We are such a fractured society now they can chime in, in places, and pit one group against the other by feeding the frenzy. There is a rift within the Republican Party and an even larger one between the two halves of America. The FBI said they suspect the Russians will stir up trouble leading up to the election. And we are such a heterogeneous society it is easy to pit one group in America against the other. For example my comment about the FBI suspecting Russian interference will play into the opinions of those who think the FBI only plays one side and they aren't to be trusted. There's a no win situation now. This can't possibly clear up until the younger generation takes over and they do what they are going to do relative to politics in this country.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41834 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 5:43 pm to
How has NATO moving eastward become more threatening because a Russian radar station at Orsk watching the Indian Ocean was taken out?
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5634 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 5:45 pm to
Here is the bottom line. Russia drew a line in the sand. The US along with NATO crossed it. If you cannot understand that you should stfu because you have no clue about this war period.
This post was edited on 6/16/24 at 5:47 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133653 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 5:48 pm to
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How has NATO moving eastward become more threatening because a Russian radar station at Orsk watching the Indian Ocean was taken out?
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61301 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 5:53 pm to
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One more time, are you claiming there was no such agreement in 1994 called the Budapest Memorandum which addressed the de-nuclearization of Ukraine and provided Ukraine with territorial integrity guarantees even by Russia?


Crickets. Anyone of you Putin loons want to respond to this?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135699 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:02 pm to
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No, the result was that the scale of international negotiation escaped you.
You make a major mistake concocting assumptions about my positions, or their basis.

Stick to assumptions about your own positions.

Meanwhile, post my position from the thread you're referencing ... if you want to go there.
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Take for example Putin’s December 2021 ultimatum. Do you think the intent of those demands was to further talks?
NO!
Though, I don't even know as to what ""ultimatum"" you're actually referencing.

Put differently, an ''"ultimatum"" would have insinuated the alternative as war. Based on the surprise at Russian invasion by both Ukraine and the West, there was no ""ultimatim.""

As I have said over, and over, and over, and over again, Putin overestimated Russian capacity to walk into Kyiv. He and his advisors badly underestimated Ukraine's capacity to resist it. Putin's opinion was, Russia can walk into Kyiv and dictate terms.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5634 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:03 pm to
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Crickets. Anyone of you Putin loons want to respond to this?


Not a Putin fan but understand his issue here. They said no NATO for Ukraine. Ukraine fafo. It’s pretty much that simple. You dumb fricks that think this war is some kind of “Russia is going to go hitler and try to take over Europe” are laughable. Actually I find hard to believe stupid mfers actually believe this crap.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35600 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:03 pm to
Had a dream last night about bombs falling everywhere around my area. We could see the fireballs and hear the explosions way, way off in the distance. One was still pretty far away but we caught a bit of the shockwave wind blast a while after detonation. Neighbors and family were freaking out, not understanding what was going on and looking to their non functioning cell phones to give them news about what to do.

Mrs. Axe and I were loading up the family and supplies and calm as can be, getting ready to bug out if we weren't vaporized first. Weird dream for sure, but I guess not all that crazy considering I'm truly expecting this Establishment Uniparty Elite cabal to catalyze mutually assured destruction in order to avoid losing the election in November.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61301 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:06 pm to
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They said no NATO for Ukraine

Why do they get to say no? Isn’t NATO a defensive group?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41834 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:06 pm to
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Had a dream last night about bombs falling everywhere around my area. We could see the fireballs and hear the explosions way, way off in the distance. One was still pretty far away but we caught a bit of the shockwave wind blast a while after detonation. Neighbors and family were freaking out, not understanding what was going on and looking to their non functioning cell phones to give them news about what to do.


Was it gas?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135699 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:11 pm to
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How has NATO moving eastward become more threatening
Are you under the impression NATO moving Eastward is somehow not threatening to Russia?
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