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re: Ukrainians have now attacked a second critical Russian nuclear early warning radar.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:05 pm to RiverCityTider
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:05 pm to RiverCityTider
NATO, not Ukraine
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:07 pm to thebigmuffaletta
quote:Link to where I defended Snopes as a credible source.
then trying to defend Snopes as some credible source of journalism.
You can't do it. You continue to lie about...well, EVERYTHING.
I linked it without even noticing the site I was linking. It was simply the first, of many, many links, that resulted from my search. So when it was pointed out to me the link was to Snopes, I linked 3 additional, different results.
One more time, are you claiming there was no such agreement in 1994 called the Budapest Memorandum which addressed the de-nuclearization of Ukraine and provided Ukraine with territorial integrity guarantees even by Russia?
That is the REAL issue here. Stop being such a whining pussy about it.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:13 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:Then the result was not what you describe
We also went over this lol.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:15 pm to RiverCityTider
The downvote pirates are pretty relentless on those of us that see how dangerous this is becoming.
I’m wondering if they could step away from their Pride festivities and explain why the F we need to be balls deep in Ukraine
I’m wondering if they could step away from their Pride festivities and explain why the F we need to be balls deep in Ukraine
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:21 pm to NC_Tigah
No, the result was that the scale of international negotiation escaped you. Take for example Putin’s December 2021 ultimatum. Do you think the intent of those demands was to further talks?
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:22 pm to POTUS2024
Yea, it’s the usual..
Putin’s just bluffing.
Let’s get boots on the ground.
Nuclear war ain’t so bad
Poland’s next, bro!
I think most of these war pigs post over on AR15F or Democratic Underground.
Putin does not give a care about the average US citizen, however Z dog is more than happy to drag NATO into war
Putin’s just bluffing.
Let’s get boots on the ground.
Nuclear war ain’t so bad
Poland’s next, bro!
I think most of these war pigs post over on AR15F or Democratic Underground.
Putin does not give a care about the average US citizen, however Z dog is more than happy to drag NATO into war
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:24 pm to BluegrassCardinal
Regardless of who is president, we will not just waltz away from Ukraine.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 5:03 pm to RiverCityTider
Look we get it, you are a Russian shill and are going to rush her and indignantly pearl clutch if the Ukrainians dare to hit Russian military targets in a war that Russia started and in which they have callously killed hundreds of thousands of civilians via indiscriminate shelling of cities and terror attacks on population centers with long range missile strikes on cities, dams, power grid, water utilities, etc, etc, etc. Can you give it a rest?
Posted on 6/16/24 at 5:20 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
quote:
there is Russian propaganda out there working on our population.
In what form? The Western "Press"? Because Russian media has been banned here.
Or, does our super villain adversary have other sinister methods of carrying out said propaganda in others ways?.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 5:34 pm to LookSquirrel
I'm not sure precisely how they chime in. But I think they can find ways into social media. We are such a fractured society now they can chime in, in places, and pit one group against the other by feeding the frenzy. There is a rift within the Republican Party and an even larger one between the two halves of America. The FBI said they suspect the Russians will stir up trouble leading up to the election. And we are such a heterogeneous society it is easy to pit one group in America against the other. For example my comment about the FBI suspecting Russian interference will play into the opinions of those who think the FBI only plays one side and they aren't to be trusted. There's a no win situation now. This can't possibly clear up until the younger generation takes over and they do what they are going to do relative to politics in this country.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 5:43 pm to RiverCityTider
How has NATO moving eastward become more threatening because a Russian radar station at Orsk watching the Indian Ocean was taken out?
Posted on 6/16/24 at 5:45 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
Here is the bottom line. Russia drew a line in the sand. The US along with NATO crossed it. If you cannot understand that you should stfu because you have no clue about this war period.
This post was edited on 6/16/24 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 6/16/24 at 5:48 pm to doubleb
quote:
How has NATO moving eastward become more threatening because a Russian radar station at Orsk watching the Indian Ocean was taken out?
Posted on 6/16/24 at 5:53 pm to LSURussian
quote:
One more time, are you claiming there was no such agreement in 1994 called the Budapest Memorandum which addressed the de-nuclearization of Ukraine and provided Ukraine with territorial integrity guarantees even by Russia?
Crickets. Anyone of you Putin loons want to respond to this?
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:02 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:You make a major mistake concocting assumptions about my positions, or their basis.
No, the result was that the scale of international negotiation escaped you.
Stick to assumptions about your own positions.
Meanwhile, post my position from the thread you're referencing ... if you want to go there.
quote:NO!
Take for example Putin’s December 2021 ultimatum. Do you think the intent of those demands was to further talks?
Though, I don't even know as to what ""ultimatum"" you're actually referencing.
Put differently, an ''"ultimatum"" would have insinuated the alternative as war. Based on the surprise at Russian invasion by both Ukraine and the West, there was no ""ultimatim.""
As I have said over, and over, and over, and over again, Putin overestimated Russian capacity to walk into Kyiv. He and his advisors badly underestimated Ukraine's capacity to resist it. Putin's opinion was, Russia can walk into Kyiv and dictate terms.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:03 pm to notiger1997
quote:
Crickets. Anyone of you Putin loons want to respond to this?
Not a Putin fan but understand his issue here. They said no NATO for Ukraine. Ukraine fafo. It’s pretty much that simple. You dumb fricks that think this war is some kind of “Russia is going to go hitler and try to take over Europe” are laughable. Actually I find hard to believe stupid mfers actually believe this crap.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:03 pm to RiverCityTider
Had a dream last night about bombs falling everywhere around my area. We could see the fireballs and hear the explosions way, way off in the distance. One was still pretty far away but we caught a bit of the shockwave wind blast a while after detonation. Neighbors and family were freaking out, not understanding what was going on and looking to their non functioning cell phones to give them news about what to do.
Mrs. Axe and I were loading up the family and supplies and calm as can be, getting ready to bug out if we weren't vaporized first. Weird dream for sure, but I guess not all that crazy considering I'm truly expecting this Establishment Uniparty Elite cabal to catalyze mutually assured destruction in order to avoid losing the election in November.
Mrs. Axe and I were loading up the family and supplies and calm as can be, getting ready to bug out if we weren't vaporized first. Weird dream for sure, but I guess not all that crazy considering I'm truly expecting this Establishment Uniparty Elite cabal to catalyze mutually assured destruction in order to avoid losing the election in November.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:06 pm to Warboo
quote:
They said no NATO for Ukraine
Why do they get to say no? Isn’t NATO a defensive group?
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:06 pm to TigerAxeOK
quote:
Had a dream last night about bombs falling everywhere around my area. We could see the fireballs and hear the explosions way, way off in the distance. One was still pretty far away but we caught a bit of the shockwave wind blast a while after detonation. Neighbors and family were freaking out, not understanding what was going on and looking to their non functioning cell phones to give them news about what to do.
Was it gas?
Posted on 6/16/24 at 6:11 pm to doubleb
quote:Are you under the impression NATO moving Eastward is somehow not threatening to Russia?
How has NATO moving eastward become more threatening
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