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re: Ukrainians have now attacked a second critical Russian nuclear early warning radar.

Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:26 pm to
They have been spinning for years now

Russia ran out of food, ammo and money 2yrs ago yet here we are
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:27 pm to
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There are numerous other sources which say the same thing


Yet you chose Snopes as your go to.

I bet there are also numerous other sources that also agree with a lot of shite Snopes says. Because someone agrees with someone else that doesn’t make it true.

I can post article after article of different media outlets saying Trump colluded with Russia, does that magically make it true?
This post was edited on 6/16/24 at 3:28 pm
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:28 pm to
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See there you go. Russia, Russia, Russia. Trump is Putins puppet.


I think the Trump is a Russian agent is the largest farce I ever heard. And it's beyond belief people in this country believed it. It's just that all those higher ups in the Intelligence agencies had motives that I don't fully understand to this day. I envision them sitting around a table plotting and planning how to keep the rubes in the populace in the dark so they can conduct their secret agenda. Which may be exactly what they are doing.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15476 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:28 pm to
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Russia ran out of food, ammo and money 2yrs ago yet here we are


And China is collapsing any day now
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133653 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:28 pm to
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Bunk Moreland -Burns certainly thought it was a red line.

Noticeably missing in the quote you posted is anything that says NATO had agreed not to expand its membership eastward.

Of course the Russians didn't like expansion of NATO. But there was NO agreement or treaty which prohibited expansion.

Don't you people even read your own quoted material?
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:29 pm to
All the regulars are fully engaged in your post now.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135699 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:33 pm to
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So why hasn’t the US made any effort to secure some type of peace agreement ?

Because they do not feel that the Russians will abide by any peace terms
That is such horseshite.

The US has been crystal clear on the precept of scuttling Russo-Ukrainian peace. This is an opportunity to weaken Russia and press Putin.

After Merkle's admission regarding Western duplicity in the Minsk agreements, it takes real gall to project the same to Russia.
This post was edited on 6/16/24 at 3:35 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:35 pm to
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That is such horseshite.


Nah, it is not if you actually read any of the links I provided to you last time we had this discussion.

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After Merkle's admission regarding Western duplicity in the Minsk agreements, it takes real gall to project the same to Russia.


Welcome to geopolitics. You might be too good-natured for it though.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133653 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:35 pm to
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Yet you chose Snopes as your go to.
It was simply the first link on the list when I googled.

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I can post article after article of different media outlets saying Trump colluded with Russia, does that magically make it true?
To be clear, are you saying there was no such agreement signed called the Budapest Memorandum and that agreement contained the conditions for Ukraine surrendering the nukes it had after the USSR breakup back to Russia for security assurances?

Please say "yes" and let's do another self ban bet...which you can again ignore and break your word on. Dumbass.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135699 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:39 pm to
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Nah, it is not if you actually read any of the links I provided to you
I have no clue what you're referring to. But quite obviously not one of them were direct, full context all-inclusive quotes of Johnson, Austin, or Blinkin in the timeframe of actual scuttling of talks. The latter two were scolded for their candor in Apr 22.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15476 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:40 pm to
You posed from a non-credible source that most everyone agrees is non-credible.

Snopes says that Biden didn’t lie about his first wife dying in a drunk driving accident because you can’t prove it didn’t happen and a lot of people believed it. That’s what you’re trying to pass off as a legitimate source.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:42 pm to
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I have no clue what you're referring to


We had a discussion about this very topic either on this board or in the OT thread. It might have been upwards of 18 months ago though.

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But quite obviously not one of them were direct, full context all-inclusive quotes of Johnson, Austin, or Blinkin in the timeframe of actual scuttling of talks.


We also went over this lol.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133653 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:47 pm to
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I can show you ten different sources for the lies we told Russia about moving east with NATO.
No you can't. Not anything that passes as a "credible" source. X posts by anonymous or ficticious bots don't qualify as credible, either.

Knowing you, everything you'd post would be a repetition of a Putin quote or claim.
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But I've done it before.
No, you haven't.
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I'm not going to link a bunch of stuff again. I don't have time for this crap.
You've been posting in this and similar threads spreading your lies for weeks but you don't have time to link ONE or TWO credible, knowledgeable, sources backing your claim??
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
101431 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:47 pm to
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notiger1997


What a simp
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133653 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:52 pm to
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You posed from a non-credible source that most everyone agrees is non-credible.
So, I followed up by posting 3 additional links to news sources.

If those are not enough for you, just google "Budapest Memorandum." You'll get hundreds of results describing that agreement in detail. (Are you capable of using Google?)

You, on the other hand, have yet to post any link by any source saying there was no agreement called the Budapest Memorandum or what that memorandum contained.

Your only reply is to keep repeating, "Nuh, uh' ad nauseam.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61301 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:54 pm to
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SirWinston


Mental midget. Unstable Putin cock sucker
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93783 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:56 pm to
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Budapest Memorandum


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Ukraine’s agreement to relinquish the world’s third-largest nuclear arsenal, which the country inherited from the collapsed Soviet Union


Further proof proof Ukraine has always been a part of russia
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15476 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:57 pm to
You lost whatever little credibility you had by posting from Snopes and then trying to defend Snopes as some credible source of journalism.

The sheer volume of lies Snopes has told makes them incredulous but here you are linking them as your go to source for facts.
Posted by texasnativevisitor
Member since Jul 2020
53 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:58 pm to
That the same accord where Russia promised to never attack Ukraine as long as they gave up nukes? Which they did…
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:02 pm to
Looks like all the Nazi partisans are up to date with their Lindsey Graham Talking Points email subscriptions.
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