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re: Ukrainians have now attacked a second critical Russian nuclear early warning radar.

Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
4639 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:20 pm to
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I’d the US attacked Cuba I would expect them to be able to defend themselves.
See how this works


That's not how the self appointed "world's policemen" has ever acted. DC has interfered on every continent.
See, that's how the US works.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36475 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

So that blood is on Zelensky's hands, and Biden's, and yours if you support it.



Not the guy who invaded them

Imagine your feeble mental gymnastics to justify your boy vlad
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:25 pm to
I thought you said that you were going to take a break?

You certainly need one.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42266 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:26 pm to
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Not the guy who invaded them


Did he exclude him?

I mean, Putin, Zalenskyy, and Biden are all shitbags.

Your deflection equates to support for at least one of them. You do you though.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:34 pm to
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I don't think you understand. The Ukranians are gambling with your family's life.


There has been only one country here to threaten to use nuclear weapons at every provocation and it isn't Ukraine. Yet it seems pretty odd that you don't give them any agency, and instead apply it to Ukraine.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6611 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:35 pm to
I'm saying this war would not happen if the people who support it stopped.

America is on record for saying the war is a good thing because we are fighting Russian with non American dead bodies.

If you are cool with that then you are culpable. The blood is on your hands to.

And if there is a nuclear war, the blood for that will be on your hands as well.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22746 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:35 pm to
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There has been only one country here to threaten to use nuclear weapons at every provocation and it isn't Ukraine. Yet it seems pretty odd that you don't give them any agency, and instead apply it to Ukraine.

I think buried within the internet world and social media, Russian propagandists have been subtly working our people.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6611 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:37 pm to
If any conservatives support this war, they are the worst of sucker's, cucking for those who hate them.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:38 pm to
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I'm saying this war would not happen if the people who support it stopped.


Lol. The Russians are the ones who invaded. They arguably prolonged it by turning what was supposed to be a quick operation into a slogfest because they were so inept in their initial battle plan that they were beaten back by the Ukrainians before major Western aid even arrived.

It seems again that you just want capitulation because the Russians apparently have no agency.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133653 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:42 pm to
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America is on record for saying the war is a good thing
Link?
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6611 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:47 pm to
We started it. The Russians basically begged us to stop for years.

The ussr walked right out of Warsaw Pac nations
. We annexed all thar and beyond.

They kept saying please stop. Please stop. Never Ukraine.

So we push right up and into Ukraine. Promote a coup. Unleash our little cia dirty trickster all over Ukraine, spying and setting up listening posts and biological warfare labs.

Then your VP, Kamala, outright declares Ukraine will be part of NATO.

Putin says F it, and invades. He waited 30 years. Then he had enough.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22746 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:51 pm to
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If any conservatives support this war, they are the worst of sucker's, cucking for those who hate them.


Okay, I'm getting your drift. In your camp we should support nothing the Ukrainians want, nothing the EU and NATO wants and should lay off the Russians because we are in their sphere of influence.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62010 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:52 pm to
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Putin could easily end this nonsense at anytime.


So why hasn’t the US made any effort to secure some type of peace agreement ?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297212 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:54 pm to
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Not the guy who invaded them


Putin is a dipshit, but so is our govt.

Ukraine is just caught in-between.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6611 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:54 pm to
See there you go. Russia, Russia, Russia. Trump is Putins puppet.

Is Russia destroying this country? Or is it people inside this country?

Your ilk lied to us for 4 years. Now we should let you take us to war?

I'm not even going to mention that in-between your ilk bioengineered a virus and released it on the public, while demanding we take a toxic vaccine.
This post was edited on 6/16/24 at 2:57 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:54 pm to
Russia is not a victim here man. The former Warsaw Pact countries made overtures about joining the West before the USSR even dissolved. Russia does not get to dictate the foreign policy goals of their former allies. It says something that their former allies spent considerable effort to not be under Russian influence again. Maybe you should be thoughtful as to why.

And regardless, Russia started this particular episode. They invaded, then bungled their invasion so badly that they created their own quagmire, and now are the only ones who are threatening to use nuclear weapons, and yet they seem to escape any blame from you. It's really curious that you go out of your way to ensure they have no agency.

Everything Russia's former allies feared about them turned out to be true. Do you realize that? The efforts those Eastern European countries made were based not on delusions, but real concerns about Russian behavior.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22746 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:55 pm to
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Ukrainians have now attacked a second critical Russian nuclear early warning radar.


BTW, I watched a news video yesterday indicating the Russians have put an anti satellite weapon in orbit that is trailing one of our intelligence satellites.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135699 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:56 pm to
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before major Western aid even arrived
Major Western aid had been pumped in since 2014 under the guise of seeking peace in the Minsk accords. Minsk served to buy time to rearm Ukraine.
This post was edited on 6/16/24 at 2:59 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 2:58 pm to
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So why hasn’t the US made any effort to secure some type of peace agreement ?


Because they do not feel that the Russians will abide by any peace terms, which was the reason the April 2022 talks were scuttled. Because the negotiations that were occurring before the invasion in February between Macron and Putin showed the Russians were bad-faith actors, which poisoned the for talks in the immediate aftermath of the invasion.

In a stalemate as it is now, that portends peace for its own sake, which I don't think will last. One of the sides has to be in a position to concede something, and at this point we haven't reached that, as the territorial demands made by the Russians are impossible for the Ukrainians to accept.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9502 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:00 pm to
NATO and our own government won’t be happy until nukes start flying.

That should be obvious to all at this point.
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