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re: Ukraine….. Wow…. Your president basically threatens the US when he gets spanked down.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 1:44 am to 10thyrsr
Posted on 3/1/25 at 1:44 am to 10thyrsr
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In the past, no invited guest (who was invited for the sole purpose of signing a minerals deal, which he DIDN'T) has tried to air grievances like it was fricking festivus in front of the media.
What did he say negative toward our country or our leaders? Please tell me.
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Posted on 3/1/25 at 1:47 am to 10thyrsr
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Little suckling pigs who tell mama pig that she might be slaughtered some day don't get to feed off the sow when she gets angry.
They should have just said this instead of the dog and pony show for the media.
"We're not going to commit to fighting a war with Russia to defend you. You need to make concessions and negotiate for peace. We will not be providing you any more help if you don't."
That would have been much more constructive than the performance they put on.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 1:48 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Disagreeing about whether you can trust Putin is not disrespectful to the US….well unless….nevermind.
Your saying that Trump should agree that we can't trust Putin?
Nevermind the fact that the President of Ukraine just said that he doesn't trust Putin, totally sabotaging any hope of a peace deal in front of the one man who can negotiate that!?
You are mentally retarded.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 1:49 am to Mickey Goldmill
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What did he say negative toward our country or our leaders? Please tell me.
I said he was airing grievances. Was he, or was he not?
Posted on 3/1/25 at 1:50 am to 10thyrsr
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no invited guest (who was invited for the sole purpose of signing a minerals deal, which he DIDN'T)
If you listened to Ukranians (not just Zelensky) talk about the mineral deal, it was *always* about security for them.
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tried to air grievances like it was fricking festivus in front of the media.
Now do JD Vance talking about Zelensky meeting with Kamala. Then do Trump talking about Russiagate.
It's bizarre to me that you guys keep accusing Zelensky of doing what JD and Trump were doing.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 1:50 am to Raz
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By that logic anything could be considered a threat
Yeah, just ask a Trans-person or a purpled haired leftist afflicted with TDS.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 1:52 am to 10thyrsr
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Your saying that Trump should agree that we can't trust Putin?
Nevermind the fact that the President of Ukraine just said that he doesn't trust Putin, totally sabotaging any hope of a peace deal in front of the one man who can negotiate that!?
You are mentally retarded.
Nope. Never said they had to agree. Still doesn’t make it disrespectful to Trump or the US.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 1:53 am to Raz
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It's bizarre to me that you guys keep accusing Zelensky of doing what JD and Trump were doing
The difference is that the US is the POWER. The people with power have that luxury. The ones who are asking for help don't.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 1:53 am to 10thyrsr
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Nevermind the fact that the President of Ukraine just said that he doesn't trust Putin, totally sabotaging any hope of a peace deal in front of the one man who can negotiate that!?
He's been saying that since forever so that didn't sabotage anything.
From Trump's perspective, the response could have just been "There's trust issues between the two parties that we need to work out so that we can have a peace deal both sides will agree to." Easy.
Trying to ignore what everyone on all sides knows is true doesn't really help negotiations. Better to get it out there and work through it.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 1:54 am to CAD703X
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When he said the ocean won't keep us from being affected. Did you even watch it?
The U.S. arguably shares a border with Russia through Poland, Lithuania, Norway, Finland, Estonia, and Latvia, countries that we are treaty bound to protect. Sounds like the U.S. could be affected by Russia.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 1:55 am to 10thyrsr
Why would airing grievances about an invading country and their leader be disrespectful to Trump? Unless….nevermind.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 1:57 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Why would airing grievances about an invading country and their leader be disrespectful to Trump?
In front of the media and the whole world to witness? I appreciate the fight in you but I'm marking this as a win.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 1:58 am to 10thyrsr
Yeah…in front of Trump. Unless Putin is trumps best bud, why would that bother him?
Posted on 3/1/25 at 2:02 am to 10thyrsr
Zelensky, Trump and Vance all aired grievances. So what's the problem? It was done in front of the media because that's what Trump wanted, not Zelensky.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 3:08 am to Raz
quote:No it was done in front of the media, because that is how Oval Office head of state meetings are initiated.
It was done in front of the media because that's what Trump wanted
Another element as to how Oval Office head of state meetings are orchestrated is they follow a string of preceding diplomatic contacts as did this one.
Those preceding meetings were prequel forums for Zelenkyy's catastrophic Oval Office performance. There were 1000 different responses Zelenskyy could have registered. He chose public belligerence --- Arms folded, eyes rolling, interrupting, raising his voice, etc.
To the extent Trump wanted the public to see what Bessent and Vance saw two weeks ago, perhaps it was a ploy. Regardless, it was ultimately Zelenskyy's doing (undoing). Not Trump's.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 3:51 am to Mickey Goldmill
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What did he say negative toward our country or our leaders?
Bitch.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 4:51 am to Mickey Goldmill
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In the past, invited guests to the White House would be treated kindly as one does for an invited guest.
And guests whose nations survival is reliant on over a 100 billion of US tax payer $s may want to be gracious to the host.
That is unless the guest is fleecing the host by corruptly wasting the hosts $.
This post was edited on 3/1/25 at 7:31 am
Posted on 3/1/25 at 5:11 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Cheer on though guys cause it was tough looking
It's so horrible that we finally have a president willing to demand accountability and not give away all of our wealth.
Remember when everyone was told that Biden was the best choice for president because of his foreign diplomacy skills? And then Biden gave Putin permission for a small invasion? And then Putin invaded? It really sucks we don't have those great negotiation skills in the office now. With Trump, we might actually get something in return for ending the war, and that's just terrible.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 5:17 am to Mickey Goldmill
Good ol Mickey. Gargling midget balls again.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 5:39 am to Raz
"I bet you guys blame Poland for starting WWII.
"There's nothing to walk back anyway. Zelensky's opinion --that if we don't stop Putin now, we will be dealing with him in the future-- is a reasonable and valid opinion.
Trump's position that he isn't worried about Russia regardless of what happens in Ukraine is also a reasonable and valid opinion.
I don't see how either of these things are controversial or worth going off about."
There is everything to walk back. The European Union believes that the US will be dealing with Russia on the behalf of Europe. Europe is aware of the threats and believe that the US will save them once again. Europe should not bite the hand that protects them. Europe is the petulant child who hates, looks down and bad mouths the parent until they need help. Well, Europe will needs to step up and stand on their own.
"There's nothing to walk back anyway. Zelensky's opinion --that if we don't stop Putin now, we will be dealing with him in the future-- is a reasonable and valid opinion.
Trump's position that he isn't worried about Russia regardless of what happens in Ukraine is also a reasonable and valid opinion.
I don't see how either of these things are controversial or worth going off about."
There is everything to walk back. The European Union believes that the US will be dealing with Russia on the behalf of Europe. Europe is aware of the threats and believe that the US will save them once again. Europe should not bite the hand that protects them. Europe is the petulant child who hates, looks down and bad mouths the parent until they need help. Well, Europe will needs to step up and stand on their own.
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