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re: UAP thread: disclosure under Trump, suppressed tech, nature of others/reality, “drones”

Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:19 pm to
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:19 pm to
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/soldier-died-cybertruck-motive-criticizing-government-rcna186182

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Soldier who died in Cybertruck left writing criticizing government, authorities say Law enforcement officials say Matthew Livelsberger left behind a “diary of activity” on his phone. Those who knew and served with Livelsberger described a patriotic soldier.


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A decorated Army veteran suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder called U.S. government leadership “weak” and appeared to acknowledge he purposely blew up a Tesla Cybertruck at the entrance of the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas on New Year’s Day, police said Friday.


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Two letters in the phone app suggest a possible motive in the blast, Koren said. In one letter, he tells “fellow service members, veterans and all Americans” it’s time to “wake up” because the country’s leadership is “weak” and “only serves to enrich themselves.” A second letter appeared to shed more light on Livelsberger’s thinking. “We are the United States of America, the best country ... to ever exist, but right now, we are terminally ill and headed towards collapse,” a second letter said. “This was not a terrorist attack. It was a wake up call. Americans only pay attention to spectacles and violence. What better way to get my point across than a stunt with fireworks and explosives


Ponder what message was that important to him?

*no violence is encouraged or suggested
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 10:31 pm to
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What better way to get my point across than a stunt with fireworks and explosives


I don't know why this makes me chuckle. Murrica!
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 10:29 pm to
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp0h-siF3X8

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Jason Jorjani - Slow Drip Disclosure, Zero Point Energy, and Breakaway Civilizations - Hard Truths


Very wide ranging talk that covers (and unifies) many of the topics covered in my threads.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 10:44 pm to
the F22 first flight was in 1997 and yet it is still the greatest military fighter jet in the world

in the 28 years since the F22, we have spent hundreds of billions on flight R&D for the military

it is highly likely we have not seen the latest and greatest military tech that is out there operational
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 12:59 am to
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It is one thing to believe, but another to know. Soon, all will know.

Know what exactly?
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When it is all said and done, I think both of these topics (JFK and UAP) will be interrelated

Wait what?

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Auy2k

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Just hand over the UFO tech to Elon and let him roll with it


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lsuguy84

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We know exactly what is going on at all times. We have known since probably 1999.

Known what exactly?

Are you guys indicating UFOs or UAPs, or whatever you want to refer to them as, and aliens are real? You believe beings from another planet have flown their spaceships to Earth?

Posted by 10thyrsr
Texas
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 4:36 am to
The man in the high castle by PKD wasn't meant to be fiction. PKD truly believed he was writing stories from alternative timelines. Some of his stories have been prophetic even in our own timeline.

For those unfamiliar with PKD, he wrote the books on many movies you have watched.

Minority Report
Screamers
Blade Runner
Paycheck
A Scanner Darkly
The Man in the High Castle
Total Recall

And several others.
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 4:42 am
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:15 am to
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and aliens are real? You believe beings from another planet have flown their spaceships to Earth?


That is “your” hypothesis, but in reality it is just the programming working well on you…

I agree that it’s very unlikely that “aliens” are coming from other planets via ships. That scenario is easily refuted /“debunked”. In doing so, it is the hope of some that all inquiry into this topic ceases (with a disinformation/ridicule campaign layered on top).

If you go back and read some of the threads I have, you’ll realize that there are many more options to consider.



Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:58 am to
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Are you guys indicating UFOs or UAPs, or whatever you want to refer to them as, and aliens are real? You believe beings from another planet have flown their spaceships to Earth?



"Indicating", as in believing? How do we know if we don't get factual information upon which to make educated assessments? Honest people deserve to know the whole truth in such weighty issues and given the extraordinary efforts to withhold that truth and what we now have seen is blatant corruption, coverups, criminality and lies from those who supposedly have our best interests at heart, those 'leaders' need to prove themselves. Like Reagan said..."trust, but verify".

It is BS propaganda and a likely coverup of monumental proportions re the corruption that those who will not come clean about the extraordinary
technology and/or 'sources' that are the basis for due suspicion re the UAP scenario. If Humanity truly "cannot handle the truth", then we are damned to die by the lie. We at least deserve a fair shot.

They can either attempt to herd cats and suffer the predictable consequences or persuade via the truth and rally people to the cause of our common hopes and dreams. We will all pay dearly in pain and regret if our 'Leaders' choose the former.
Posted by ScottFowler
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:06 am to
Financial Times - Peter Thiel had an article a couple days ago covering the soon to come disclosure that will occur.
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In 2016, President Barack Obama told his staff that Donald Trump’s election victory was “not the apocalypse”. By any definition, he was correct. But understood in the original sense of the Greek word apokálypsis, meaning “unveiling”, Obama could not give the same reassurance in 2025. Trump’s return to the White House augurs the apokálypsis of the ancien regime’s secrets. The new administration’s revelations need not justify vengeance — reconstruction can go hand in hand with reconciliation. But for reconciliation to take place, there must first be truth.

The apokálypsis is the most peaceful means of resolving the old guard’s war on the internet, a war the internet won. My friend and colleague Eric Weinstein calls the pre-internet custodians of secrets the Distributed Idea Suppression Complex (DISC) — the media organisations, bureaucracies, universities and government-funded NGOs that traditionally delimited public conversation. In hindsight, the internet had already begun our liberation from the DISC prison upon the prison death of financier and child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein in 2019. Almost half of Americans polled that year mistrusted the official story that he died by suicide, suggesting that DISC had lost total control of the narrative.


Financial Times from Peter Thiel had an article a couple days ago covering the soon to come discloser that will have to occur.

A time for truth and reconciliation
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:11 am to
I bet it doesn’t happen.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:35 am to
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:38 am to
The Thiel's point is it as already happening. Wither the Feds can keep their secrets or not. The new world of the Internet is not going to allow the secrets to stay secret.

It is kinda the same point that was made that even with all of the MSM and establishment against MAGA, MAGA still won out.

Watching different Eric Weinstein interviews, he insinuates that Physics itself has been bottlenecked on purpose by some group of people. Led down the "string theory" path to a dead-end.

My theory is WW2 ended with nuclear weapons. Physics has not been allowed to advance because the next step has terrifying possibilities.

I am just hoping that the advancement allows for exponential economic growth. To where the USA can grow out of this debt.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:46 am to
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Watching different Eric Weinstein interviews, he insinuates that Physics itself has been bottlenecked on purpose by some group of people. Led down the "string theory" path to a dead-end.


I've seen such vids of his. And he's talking WW2. 80 years ago. If it happened then, it most certainly is happening now. And will continue.

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My theory is WW2 ended with nuclear weapons. Physics has not been allowed to advance because the next step has terrifying possibilities.


Probably much truth in that. And how has it not been allowed? Funding. If gov controls (ultimately) the revenue for research & development, that pretty much closes the book on real advancement. Because like Sauron, Gov does not share power. Not ultimately. It may collaborate in ways, but in the end, what it can't control, it'll deny from the public.

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I am just hoping that the advancement allows for exponential economic growth. To where the USA can grow out of this debt
.

Hope is not a strategy.


But hell yeah, if I'm wrong...I'm eagerly awaiting it.
Posted by omegaman66
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:47 am to
What is a UAP?
Posted by CCT
LA
Member since Dec 2006
6804 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 12:09 pm to
New word to differentiate UFO from Unidentified Aerial Phenomenom. Still UFOs, but prolly to keep orbs and craft separate.

Useless term, IMHO.

UAP:

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UFO: Calvine UFO


This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 12:23 pm
Posted by ScottFowler
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 12:21 pm to
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Hope is not a strategy.


But hell yeah, if I'm wrong...I'm eagerly awaiting it.


Me too. But we all control what we can control.

That said, when the next Ipad is developed, I am hoping to recognize it and invest early.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 12:22 pm to
UAP is nothing more than a feigned bureaucratic term that only adds confusion to the discussion. That's the intended goal. Muddy the water and create even more chaos and confusion.

There's no legitimate focus on answering these questions.
Posted by CCT
LA
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 12:36 pm to
I DESPISE the term UAP. bullshite acronym.
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4601 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:57 pm to
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I DESPISE the term UAP. bullshite acronym.


I don't mind the new term because for me, it is tied to the moment when the Gov't admitted that these things exist, and they don't know what they are...


That has never happened since 30 years before I was born....
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:17 pm to
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there are many more options to conside


Vid above speculates the following:

-The physics required to propel the crafts amounts to time travel. Decision was made to suppress this tech (security vs freedom)

-The current gatekeepers become the humanoid “aliens” people witness

-Future humans go back in time and become the gods of old (going underwater, underground and off planet)

-They pollute the timeline while deceiving humanity (while presenting themselves as gods).

-They become the shadowy aspect of the deep state

- They evolve into the Nordic appearing “aliens”. Grays are biological AI beings (synths)

They want you to think they are coming from another planet. They do not want this tech open sourced…

Retrocausal time loop
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