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re: UAP /paranormal primer: essential information for what is to come
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:46 am to ThinePreparedAni
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:46 am to ThinePreparedAni
TPE, why has Elizondo , Mellon and Delong been so quiet about this?
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Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:54 am to ThinePreparedAni
The whole issue of the existence of Sentient, Self-Aware Beings (BEING, I.e., God) and how they relate to each other is based on a Universal Axiom (Biblically speaking, "The Word") of whether or not there is a Good vs Evil Principle. If such be the Axiomatic case, then in real life (Subjective Reality) it would translate into a competitive "wailing and gnashing of teeth" scenario no matter how evolved and/or powerful a particular Entity was. It all goes 'Spiritual' at some point. And any group of highly evolved and powerful 'Alien' Entities, would know this. And be forced respect the 'Rules' of said Axiom. "Every knew will bow". Period.
Since I believe that Evil does indeed exist in a Spiritual form, I suspect that all knowledgeable Entities in whatever form, are still struggling against each other for spiritual dominance, as such would be a default scenario. I do not know to what degree or by what 'Rule' Jesus could interfere in the worldly dynamics ("miracle") of my own personal Reality. And to speculate on the rules which govern the interaction between highly evolved and powerful entities with lower entities would be a shot in the dark.
I do believe that respect for Personal Sovereignty is a Universal Axiom, and even God/Jesus will not intervene in the consequences of one's personal choices WITHOUT PERMISSION. They can't, lest the whole Creation fall apart. Even "The Word" rules God..."in the BEGINNING was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word WAS God". The 'Blueprint' calls the shots.
I think we are going to find out pretty quick, TP; the 'birthing pains' are upon us, and we deserve to know the TRUTH. We've earned that much at least. An educated choice, which is why we - via 'Adam and Eve' - chose to leave the 'Garden' in order to know the whole Truth, and therein make a valid choice as to who/what they are.
Good work. Be well, Friend.
Since I believe that Evil does indeed exist in a Spiritual form, I suspect that all knowledgeable Entities in whatever form, are still struggling against each other for spiritual dominance, as such would be a default scenario. I do not know to what degree or by what 'Rule' Jesus could interfere in the worldly dynamics ("miracle") of my own personal Reality. And to speculate on the rules which govern the interaction between highly evolved and powerful entities with lower entities would be a shot in the dark.
I do believe that respect for Personal Sovereignty is a Universal Axiom, and even God/Jesus will not intervene in the consequences of one's personal choices WITHOUT PERMISSION. They can't, lest the whole Creation fall apart. Even "The Word" rules God..."in the BEGINNING was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word WAS God". The 'Blueprint' calls the shots.
I think we are going to find out pretty quick, TP; the 'birthing pains' are upon us, and we deserve to know the TRUTH. We've earned that much at least. An educated choice, which is why we - via 'Adam and Eve' - chose to leave the 'Garden' in order to know the whole Truth, and therein make a valid choice as to who/what they are.
Good work. Be well, Friend.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:56 pm to RCDfan1950
https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/4134891-a-monumental-ufo-scandal-is-looming/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_gH8QIMvjqY
Grusch claims the security around “the program” was/is similar to the Manhattan project (Oppenheimer in the current public zeitgeist is an interesting synchronicity…)
Other interviews I have listened to claims the funding for security of the program exceeds the funding of the program itself…
quote:
A monumental UFO scandal is looming
BY MARIK VON RENNENKAMPFF, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR - 08/04/23 7:00 AM ET
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The decades-long saga of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) is barreling headlong toward one of two stunning conclusions. Either the U.S. government has mounted an extraordinary, decades-long coverup of UFO retrieval and reverse-engineering activities, or elements of the defense and intelligence establishment are engaging in a staggeringly brazen psychological disinformation campaign.
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The inspector general of the intelligence community deemed Grusch’s allegations that UFO-related information was inappropriately concealed from Congress “credible and urgent.” Senate Intelligence Vice Chairman Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) confirmed the inspector general’s finding. I. Charles McCullough, III, the intelligence community’s first inspector general and now an attorney in private practice, represents Grusch and sat directly behind him during a July 26 congressional hearing. It is extremely unlikely that such a high-profile lawyer and former top federal official would represent anyone making the kinds of extraordinary claims that Grusch is without robust evidence.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_gH8QIMvjqY
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Interview David Grusch and former ICIG lawyer Chuck McCollough on BBC The World Tonight 2023/08/03
Grusch claims the security around “the program” was/is similar to the Manhattan project (Oppenheimer in the current public zeitgeist is an interesting synchronicity…)
Other interviews I have listened to claims the funding for security of the program exceeds the funding of the program itself…
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:12 pm to ThinePreparedAni
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Grusch claims the security around “the program” was/is similar to the Manhattan project
I never thought of that perspective, makes concealing some things much simpler.
Posted on 8/8/23 at 8:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Trying to smear Grusch by leaking his medical records 
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fmvwm8v8j9zgb1.jpg
https://twitter.com/UAPJames/status/1689069917780180992/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1689069917780180992¤tTweetUser=UAPJames
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fmvwm8v8j9zgb1.jpg
https://twitter.com/UAPJames/status/1689069917780180992/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1689069917780180992¤tTweetUser=UAPJames
Posted on 8/9/23 at 1:14 pm to ThinePreparedAni
As we try to sort all this out, going to leave this here...
Lear is the son of the man who founded Lear jet. People on the fringe have mixed feeling about him (claim he was C!A...). Search him on Youtube and you will find some wild stuff...
I have heard similar stories about tunnels under Vegas. Not to hard to envision as it was the hub for Janet airlines that flew folks to Area 51/Groom (well acknowledged)
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I used to follow John Lear on Facebook before his death. In July 2020 he posted about the UAP Taskforce and NYT article and while at the time they sounded very “out there” they actually seem to line up with a lot of Grusch’s claims. See below:
“John Lear on UAP Taskforce
The Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force, Pure BS
Please let me explain what the UAPTF is all about.
More than 70 years ago the U.S. government launched a top secret investigation of UFO’s which included the recovery and sometimes burial of flying saucers of all types. The investigation was kept more secret than the development of the nuclear bomb. No elected or appointed official was ever told about the program and it was kept buried deep inside the Pentagon. President Truman was the first and last President to have been briefed in full about the program. Each subsequent President was told less and less.
Over the past 70 years this program has collected over 50 ET craft and over 100 different alien bodies and hundreds of thousands of feet of high quality film taken of the on site recoveries and included exterior and interior shots.
The recovery teams initially based in Ft. Collins were called the Blue Berets and were males with no families, no relatives and usually orphans. This was so that if there was any infraction, however slight, this team member good be eliminated and nobody would be the wiser.
The stories of the recoveries were fantastic in keeping the craft out of the sight of the public, traveling and transporting in complete secrecy, usually only at night with advance teams preparing and leading the path for recovery and clean up teams leaving the property and soil as if nothing has ever been there.
Destinations for the recovered craft were well hidden and are still in place. Some were taken to Area 51 but not many.
Area 51 (Groom Lake) was initially prepared in 1948-1948 by Seabee crews who dug several layers below the dry lake. |It was then covered up and only by sheer coincidence did Lockheed choose the exact area for the testing of the U2. This underground area was kept totally secret until the early 90’s when the original runway caved into one of the hangars underground. A second runway several hundred feet to the east was built and the original runway was not used again and the hangar repaired.
In the late 70’s more underground hangars were built under the Tonopah Test Range (Antelope Dry Lake) which connected with huge tunnels and connected with the Groom Lake and Papoose Dry Lake underground hangars.
In the early 80’s another huge, completely underground facility was built under the Paiute Mesa along with a dual runway and hangar 13 miles to the north under Gold Flat.
And by the early 2000’s all facilities, TTR, Groom Lake, Papoose and Paiute Mesa were all connected with enormous underground tunnels and hangars.
And these facilities were not the only secret facilities in Nevada. There was one to the west of Pioche, one near Ely and one near Ferber Flats in northern Nevada. And of course are probably others
Manning these facilities and keeping them secret was a major problem so a maglev high speed subway was built from under the Luxor with additional parking and terminals under Aria and Bellagio from where over 5000 workers a day are whisked to work and back in less than 20 minutes.
Very few of these workers know about the hidden ET craft in the underground hangars and most were given a false story about the existence of ET craft and their occupants. Today there are less than 40 people who know the true story of the recoveries which began in the late 30’s.
It was obvious to the Pentagon that they would have to eventually release some kind of story about UFO’s so they came up with an ingenious idea to make an Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force, give it a few tic tacs, rolling bb’s and non-identifiable radar scans to the public.
The put Luiz Elizondo who knew nothing about the real recovery program and put him in contact with former Senator Reid and his friend Bob Bigelow who always had had an interest in UFO’s.
Then the Pentagon announced that they had other things to take care of and they were going to let Elizondo, Reid and Bigelow run with the UFO ball, gave them the tictac radar photos, $22 million and pretend they were going to let them run the UFO recovery show.
Meanwhile the Pentagon had over 70 years of ET artifacts, 50 craft, bodies and film carefully hidden away and safe from public scrutiny for ever.
The UATPF is just a brilliant scam perpetrated by the Pentagon to hide their deep involvement in UFO’s.
John Lear July 25, 2020”
Lear is the son of the man who founded Lear jet. People on the fringe have mixed feeling about him (claim he was C!A...). Search him on Youtube and you will find some wild stuff...
I have heard similar stories about tunnels under Vegas. Not to hard to envision as it was the hub for Janet airlines that flew folks to Area 51/Groom (well acknowledged)
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:39 pm to ThinePreparedAni
Oldie (reference to next post)
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/31798/the-secretive-inventor-of-the-navys-bizarre-ufo-patents-finally-talks
His comments:
It will be a glorious day
Here is what the detractors say:
Again, it cannot exist in my worldview, so it does not exist
Esoteric science
“The things that should not be...”
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/31798/the-secretive-inventor-of-the-navys-bizarre-ufo-patents-finally-talks
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The Secretive Inventor Of The Navy's Bizarre 'UFO Patents' Finally Talks
Dr. Salvatore Pais has finally spoken to The War Zone concerning his seemingly out of this world patents filed on behalf of the U.S. Navy.
BY BRETT TINGLEYJANUARY 22, 2020
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Over the last six months, The War Zone has been deeply reporting on a set of bizarre patents assigned to the U.S. Navy. The patents, which are all the product of a single inventor, truly sound like the stuff of science fiction and include high-temperature superconductors, gravitational wave generators, compact fusion reactors, and high-energy electromagnetic field generators. Most radical of all is the “hybrid aerospace-underwater craft” claimed to be able to “engineer the fabric of our reality at the most fundamental level” by seemingly bending the laws of physics as we know them. Together, these patents seem to be the building blocks of a vehicle with truly out-of-this-world, UFO-like performance. As part of our reporting, we have been working to better understand the mind behind this mysterious intellectual property. Now, the elusive Dr. Salvatore Cezar Pais has spoken to The War Zone.
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Dr. Pais recently published a new academic paper in the IEEE Transactions on Plasma Science journal detailing his work on his Plasma Compression Fusion Device. That device, the patent for which The War Zone has previously reported on, is a compact fusion reactor claimed to be capable of creating a net energy gain, a breakthrough that would revolutionize energy production if truly feasible.
His comments:
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The fact that my work on the design of a Compact Fusion Reactor was accepted for publication in such a prestigious journal as IEEE TPS, should speak volumes as to its importance and credibility - and should eliminate (or at least alleviate) all misconceptions you (or any other person) may have in regard to the veracity (or possibility) of my advanced physics concepts.
Mr. Tingley, do realize that my work culminates in the enablement of the Pais Effect (original physical concept). The Pais Effect comprises the generation of extremely high electromagnetic energy fluxes (and hence high local energy densities) generated by controlled motion of electrically charged matter (from solid to plasma states) subjected to accelerated vibration and/or accelerated spin, via rapid acceleration transients. Such high energy EM radiation can locally interact with the Vacuum Energy State (VES) - the VES being the Fifth State of Matter (Fifth Essence - Quintessence), in other words the fundamental structure (foundational framework), from which Everything else (Spacetime included) in our Quantum Reality, emerges.
The Engineering of the Pais Effect can give rise to the Enablement of Macroscopic Quantum Coherence, which if you have closely been following my work, you understand the importance of. I must stress that all this work (patents, patent applications and technical papers) was conducted as a NAVAIR/ NAWCAD employee, and that my current position with Navy SSP has absolutely no bearing or in any way, shape or form has anything to do with this advanced physics work.
Thank you for your interest in my physics concepts, and try to keep an open mind in regard to my work.
Respectfully, Sal Salvatore Cezar Pais, Ph.D. A.D. MMXIX
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Despite Dr. Pais’ insistence that the Pais Effect is indeed a real phenomenon and the assurance that NAVAIR’s Chief Technology Officer gave the USPTO, we have been unable to find a single scientist or engineer who can corroborate the claims made in Dr. Pais’s patents. Nevertheless, in another correspondence, Dr. Pais assured The War Zone that “as far as the doubting SMEs [subject matter experts] are concerned, my work shall be proven correct one fine day…”.
It will be a glorious day
Here is what the detractors say:
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According to Willis, Dr. Pais' most recent work represents "a classic case of pathological science." Willis says the literature for the plasma compression fusion device contains invented jargon, nonsensical statements, weak or absent evidence of an informed theoretical basis, an "overabundance of nebulous adjectives and adverbs instead of meaningful quantities in technical writing," and "lots of statements made in passing that seem to contradict basic and accepted physics." Willis says that Dr. Pais "references subjects that have consistently been plagued with pathological science and popular misunderstanding for decades, such as vacuum energy. It's hard not to suspect he's either drinking the kool-aid himself, or just chumming the waters for the kind of people who do." Still, even Willis notes that "this case is mildly unusual in that the author has a Ph. D. and is employed by the government, his patents are assigned to the government, and the paper is slated to appear in a rather widely-read IEEE outlet. However, these facts in no way temper my view that this is all basically nonsense--it just raises additional questions about the cui bono of this particular case."
Again, it cannot exist in my worldview, so it does not exist
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As we continue to report on the extraordinary claims of Dr. Salvatore Pais and the inventions he has patented on behalf of the Navy, we continue to find scientists who suggest that the intended audience of these patents may not, in fact, be the scientific or aerospace communities as these patents and their supporting publications contain what most would call pseudoscience and empty jargon. Still, as we noted earlier, there are decades of research into similar approaches at breakthrough propulsion technologies or so-called "space time metric engineering", much of it U.S. government-funded.
Esoteric science
“The things that should not be...”
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:42 pm to ThinePreparedAni
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Vacuum Energy State (VES) - the VES being the Fifth State of Matter (Fifth Essence - Quintessence), in other words the fundamental structure (foundational framework), from which Everything else (Spacetime included) in our Quantum Reality, emerges.
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66407099
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Scientists at Fermilab close in on fifth force of nature
Published 9 hours ago
quote:
We think there could be another force, something that we are not aware of now. It is something different, which we call the 'fifth force'. "It is something different, something we don't know about yet, but it should be important, because it says something new about the Universe." If confirmed, this would represent arguably one of the biggest scientific breakthroughs for a hundred years, since Einstein's theories of relativity. That is because a fifth force and any particles associated with it are not part of the Standard Model of particle physics. Researchers know that there is what they describe as "physics beyond the Standard Model" out there, because the current theory can't explain lots of things that astronomers observe in space.
Known and unknown physics bro…
This post was edited on 8/10/23 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 8/11/23 at 12:38 am to ThinePreparedAni
Great writeup. Could have maybe been further extrapolated on in a more common vernacular with more relatable imagery. I very much enjoyed it. Thanks.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 12:41 am to ThinePreparedAni
If there are patents, why don’t people try to build his design to test if it works?
Posted on 8/26/23 at 6:49 pm to kingbob
https://uforabbithole.com/
Very good podcast
Check out episodes 18, 19, 22 and 23. They deal with Plato’s allegory of the cave.
The deeper I dig into all this, the more I feel that this is largely about the limits of human perception and what is reality
Very good podcast
Check out episodes 18, 19, 22 and 23. They deal with Plato’s allegory of the cave.
The deeper I dig into all this, the more I feel that this is largely about the limits of human perception and what is reality
Posted on 8/26/23 at 7:04 pm to ThinePreparedAni
Glad to see you are alive. Beginning to wonder.
Posted on 8/26/23 at 8:33 pm to ThinePreparedAni
quote:
this is largely about the limits of human perception and what is reality
on top of that we are
co creating it.
I chose this?
Posted on 8/26/23 at 9:29 pm to kingbob
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If there are patents, why don’t people try to build his design to test if it works?
You know why.
Posted on 8/28/23 at 11:48 am to CelticDog
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on top of that we are
co creating it.
I chose this?
This gets into the concept of creating your own reality. You become what you do and ultimately what you believe.
Why isn't the world better or more what I think it should be "if I could choose what I want it to be"? After all, I would never choose for the world to be this way.
Individual choices and beliefs are not powerful enough to overcome group choice/beliefs/consciousness.
That is why the messaging from the media and control of narratives and what is truth has so much power. Especially when you consider the masses of humanity will have 50% at average or below average intelligence and ability to comprehend such higher order concepts.
I tend to agree that we are very limited as a species in ability to perceive and comprehend much of reality and there is likely some boundaries put in place to make our existence possible and not incomprehensibly overwhelming.
Lots of parables lend itself to this concept across eons of documented time.
For now the one that comes to mind is- "be the change you want to see in the world."
Posted on 8/28/23 at 8:47 pm to ThinePreparedAni
These people like Jeremy Corbell and Ross Coulthart are pieces of shite and people are falling for it.
On one hand they're upset that the government has hidden behind "national security" as an excuse to keep things secret, but on the other hand they claim to have ground breaking knowledge but don't reveal it because they said they can't. lol
These programs have been in operation for 80 years and yet we have no material evidence and no high ranking or reputable officials have talked about it - not even on their death bed?
On one hand they're upset that the government has hidden behind "national security" as an excuse to keep things secret, but on the other hand they claim to have ground breaking knowledge but don't reveal it because they said they can't. lol
These programs have been in operation for 80 years and yet we have no material evidence and no high ranking or reputable officials have talked about it - not even on their death bed?
Posted on 9/23/23 at 8:09 am to BeepNode
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kRO5jOa06Qw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBA3RUxkZdc
quote:
UFO Whistleblower Dave Grusch Tells Me Everything
Jesse Michels 58K Likes 1,952,447 Views
Sep 10 2023 Dave Grusch is a former 14-year high ranking intelligence officer who left government in early '23 to blow the whistle on UFO’s. In 2019, he was tasked by the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency and Pentagon to investigate UFO’s as part of the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomenon Task Force (or UAPTF). In that context, he slowly started to uncover a covert UFO reverse engineering program being concealed from the civilian government. In June of '23, he outed himself to the public. In July of '23, he testified before Congress. We sat down for hours and talked about the entire history of UFO's, UFO and Atomic secrecy, Presidents and their relationships to UFO's and the insane world of Anti-Gravity research.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBA3RUxkZdc
quote:
Quantum Gravity Exposed: The Dark History of Anti-Gravity Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal 242K subscribers Subscribe 2.4K Share Thanks 54,564 views Premiered Jun 26, 2023
Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal The interest in anti-gravity by two private investors, Roger Babson and Agnew Banhson, changed the course of general relativity. Sponsor: Brilliant: LINK for 20% off SEPT 2023 UPDATE: Special thank you to Eric Weinstein as without his research, most of us wouldn't know about this topic. Thank you, Eric. I apologize for not putting your name in the video. Thanks man.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 8:22 am to ThinePreparedAni
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Dave Grusch
Lol. David Grusch the alleged “whistleblower” who was speaking on behalf of the government. The same one who testified that he agrees with the government’s policies preventing disclosure because he himself wrote those policies.
This post was edited on 9/23/23 at 8:23 am
Posted on 9/23/23 at 8:30 am to ThinePreparedAni
Posted on 9/23/23 at 9:29 am to Enadious
Those videos /images make me think of probes
https://thedebrief.org/stealth-extraterrestrial-ai-probes-reconsidering-the-uap-mystery/
But from “where”
https://thedebrief.org/stealth-extraterrestrial-ai-probes-reconsidering-the-uap-mystery/
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STEALTH EXTRATERRESTRIAL AI PROBES: RECONSIDERING THE UAP MYSTERY COURTNEY BOWER AND ELIZABETH REDMOND·SEPTEMBER 19, 2023
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Here, we explore the possibility that some portions of the truly anomalous UAP sightings could be produced by stealth-driven extraterrestrial probes imbued with artificial intelligence (AI) and a complex camouflage system. Given the limitations of our current detection methods, the nature of these UAP sightings suggests that there might indeed be more going on than what can currently be perceived.
But from “where”
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