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re: U know why I dont give a flying flip what liberal musicians have to say?

Posted on 3/16/26 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 2:53 pm to
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These guys let good music die




8s it really fair to blame Springsteen for anything even loosely related to good music?
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 2:54 pm to
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Of course, like I said, black folks have been setting the music trends for several decades. White people have been buying and imitating black music for a long time.


Since 1960, what trends would those be, besides Rap and Disco?
Posted by uziyourillusion
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 2:56 pm to
The one OP is crying about for starters.
Posted by trinidadtiger
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 3:00 pm to
Celebrity not musician but I loved the Rogan podcast with Billy Bob Thornton.

"My peers ask me, why do you go out of your way to talk to the fans. I say.....because they put my kids through school, they deserve it. Heck I had a fella walk up to me the other day just kind of staring. I said to him, I know what you are thinkin, how did an ugly sob like me marry Anjelina Jolie, hell buddy I ask myself the same thing".
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 3:18 pm to
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The one OP is crying about for starters.


Springsteen, Mellencamp, Young? Black music?
Posted by pickle311
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 3:29 pm to
Tommy Lee was spouting off some political stupidity on social media once. I replied saying something to the effect that if he hadn't gotten lucky and landed in a band that was successful, he would have just been a regular drug addict instead of one with a fan base. So why should anyone take the political advice of a uneducated addict? I was promptly blocked. Guess the point stung a little.
Posted by uziyourillusion
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 4:32 pm to
All talented musicians and I wouldn’t deny their influences and contributions on music and the genre, but rock music is unequivocally rooted in and created by black musicians.



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This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 4:34 pm
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 4:41 pm to
That's not what you originally said. You said they are the ones that set all the trends.

Also- Chuck Berry is nothing like Metallica.
Posted by Hetfield
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 5:09 pm to
Exactly. Can you imagine Fats Domino & Chuck Berry going out in a Time Machine forward to see a Slayer show in 1986 on the Reign in Blood tour or Metallica on the And Justice for All tour? They would both agree that this is nothing like what they had in mind in rock & roll music.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 5:21 pm to
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Ronnie Van Zant said it perfectly, " a southern man don't need him around anyhow ", speaking specifically to Neil Young.
this again?

Even before the plane crash, they claimed this line was a joke.

NY and LN were on friendly terms. Supposedly he even wrote the song "Powderfinger" for them.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 5:21 pm to

This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 5:33 pm
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 5:25 pm to
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Rap and hip hop replaced Soul music. Rock and Roll was replaced by Disco: Stayin' Alive! ...Stayin' Alive!
Funk replaced soul and then disco took over from funk

Rap took an enormous chunk of the rock audience. Specifically kids who would otherwise have been heavy metal fans became rap listeners
Posted by Dr Jekyll
Member since Mar 2026
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 5:26 pm to
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but rock music is unequivocally rooted in and created by black musicians.


Right, black people invented air, sunlight, and the 24 hour day.

No, blacks were a part of the early beginnings of Rock N Roll. So were Whites and even a few Hispanics. In no way, shape, or form did blacks "create" Rock.

Rock was a mesh of jazz, blues, country, and some completely new sounds.

Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 5:28 pm to
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White kids were the primary buying demographic of gangsta rap
I once read that whites made up 75% of the rap audience
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:04 pm to
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I once read that whites made up 75% of the rap audience


It was, and is, true.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:09 pm to
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White people have been buying and imitating black music for a long time. Blues, jazz, gospel, rock, hip hop, R&B, etc.


All performed on European instruments, in European tunings, scales and chords, and in English.

Edit to add-

Jazz wasn't invented by black people. They were good at it, and added their own innovations and touches to it during a segregated society where you had two distinct evolutions going on in music, but they didn't invent it. I'd say the same for R and B.


This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 6:13 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:15 pm to
"Rock is dead, they say"

- The Who, 1973
Posted by ultratiger89
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:18 pm to
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U know why I dont give a flying flip what liberal musicians have to say?


Because their music sucks and they have no talent?
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:18 pm to
quote:

Even before the plane crash, they claimed this line was a joke.


Meh, I looked it up. Ronnie said it was light hearted jab. Different from a joke.
Regardless, conservatives in the south took it literally, as they should.
Today isn't much different from then, with all the urban progressives trying to push their idiocy on others.
The Mason/Dixon line may not be the actual line between them and us today, but the basic idea is still the same.

Oh, by the way... are you one of them blue haired, limp wristed, low testosterone, commies??? Just curious
Posted by oldskule
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Member since Mar 2016
25292 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:20 pm to
ANd the OSCARS is a bust once again...

frick those people.....
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