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re: ‘Two little boys crying wolf’: Landry calls for shared blame on LA’s insurance crisis

Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:38 am to
Posted by TheFranchise
The Stick
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:38 am to
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Are there?


Ever driven between Vidor and Houston? Bay St Louis to Panama City or points east? Pascagoula to Atlanta?
McComb to Atlanta through Tuscaloosa/Birmingham?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:45 am to
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Ever driven between Vidor and Houston? Bay St Louis to Panama City or points east? Pascagoula to Atlanta?
McComb to Atlanta through Tuscaloosa/Birmingham?
Sure, so what? I see the same few people along with the usual Louisiana guys on boards in other states. That doesn't give me an actual number. That doesn't indicate the differences in the state laws.
Posted by TheFranchise
The Stick
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:54 am to
This is actually a slight misstatement. First, you have to account for the fact that health coverage provider wants their money back. And it needs to get it back. The liability coverage of these maniacs riding peoples’ tails, etc should have to address the necessary hospital bills, not the health coverage providers. To make Medicaid, Medicare or private health insurance eat that cost would create significant economic inefficiencies in the health insurance market.

Here’s a better solution to manage the healthcare costs involved in these PI cases:

Do you realize that Acadian Ambulance and most hospitals will refuse to accept health insurance when the patient was injured in a wreck or a fall? That’s right, they expect some sort of windfall if the patient was injured by someone else vs. a heart attack or stroke or some other health related factor. Allowing this to continue literally incentivizes the transportation or treatment of MVA patients over regular folks needing emergent care. BR General is among the worst at this practice. Then you have these private urgent care facilities that refuse health coverage but charge $30,000 plus for the same ER treatment that would normally run about $5000 for which Medicare or private HI would pay about $1500.

When you really get down to the nuts and bolts and actually study the economic inefficiencies, real effective change could be made but it’s not as politically expedient as blaming the plaintiff lawyers or the billion dollar insurance companies.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:54 am to
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Wouldn’t be so many uninsured if it didn’t cost more to insure your vehicle than it’s worth .
Liability-only is relatively inexpensive if you don’t have a bad driving record.

If they can’t afford it, then ride the bus. But many CAN afford it, they just choose not to because they want to spend that money on non-necessity luxuries like expensive shoes, designer brand purses, new PS5, latest iphone, or going out to the club.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84488 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:05 am to
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Do you realize that Acadian Ambulance and most hospitals will refuse to accept health insurance when the patient was injured in a wreck or a fall? That’s right, they expect some sort of windfall if the patient was injured by someone else vs. a heart attack or stroke or some other health related factor. Allowing this to continue literally incentivizes the transportation or treatment of MVA patients over regular folks needing emergent care. BR General is among the worst at this practice. Then you have these private urgent care facilities that refuse health coverage but charge $30,000 plus for the same ER treatment that would normally run about $5000 for which Medicare or private HI would pay about $1500.


Soapbox issue for me but Acadian and the hospitals have wayyyyy too much political power for it to ever be changed.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:13 am to
Landry is owned by trial lawyers. Unless we can get a veto proof majority in the legislature, reform won't happen until we get a good governor
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:22 am to
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Liability-only is relatively inexpensive if you don’t have a bad driving record. If they can’t afford it, then ride the bus. But many CAN afford it, they just choose not to because they want to spend that money on non-necessity luxuries like expensive shoes, designer brand purses, new PS5, latest iphone, or going out to the club.

No it’s not. If you’re young or have bad credit I’ve seen quotes for $300/mth on a paid for 2010 Camry.

You rather blame citizens instead of corrupt bureaucrats.
This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 10:24 am
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25140 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 12:15 pm to
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No it’s not. If you’re young or have bad credit I’ve seen quotes for $300/mth on a paid for 2010 Camry.


Probably accurate. Every company has a niche they want to fill and some companies want to target the types of clientele who carry high coverage limits, own their house, financially responsible, and generally have more stable lifestyles. So they'll price themselves out of the market for people who are the exact opposite of the target market for their risk portfolio.

Good thing is that if you put a tiny bit of effort into shopping around, you can find companies that don't look at credit and low coverage limits is their niche. Go Auto, The General, etc.
This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 12:16 pm
Posted by TheFranchise
The Stick
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 12:23 pm to
The fact is - there’s plenty of blame to go around. But one-sided “tort reform” has been established to have not worked to reduce rates in medmal, premises liability, 2020 tort reform and 2024 tort reform. And I’ve never seen any evidence that one-sided tort reform has ever reduced rates in any other state.

You can’t be serious about really addressing rates without having real solutions that are actually designed to work rather than simply demonize one side or the other.

There are real solutions that would work without depriving really injured folks of the chance to recover for the often life long impacts of significant injury. They don’t score political points but they would actually reduce rates.

As long as cops and DAs are “too busy” for auto theft, auto burglary, and enforcing auto safety laws and DOTD/CityParish Public Works are “too busy” to correct some of the dangerous roadways, we’ll continue having higher per capita vehicle theft and higher per capita MVAs than 48 or so other states.

Go drive around the “other side of the tracks” streets in your city/town, you’ll see the lanes are much narrower.

It’s not the lawyers, it’s only partly the insurance companies’ greed, but there are real common sense solutions that would actually impact rates in a positive manner.

Posted by ulmtiger
Member since Jan 2008
2318 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 1:58 pm to
Well, if you know the solution you better pass on the measures to our Governor. His many bills last year did no good. I have a feeling that the tort rerform he vetoed would have worked. But if his bills this year do not work I believe that the good he has done in criminal law will not be enough to get him reelected. Unfortunately, his hunting trips and closeness to trial lawyers will leave an impression on the voters who hoped their rates would go down. His throwing the duly State wide elected Ins Commissioner, elected without opposition, under the bus will also doom another Governor run and perhaps the Ins. Commisioner, as well. The voters expect the rates to be competitive with other states and are not satisfied being the State with the highest rates.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29279 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:18 pm to
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There are real solutions that would work without depriving really injured folks of the chance to recover for the often life long impacts of significant injury. They don’t score political points but they would actually reduce rates.

Stop sidetracking the argument, no one is demonizing or wanting people with severe injuries to not be compensated. It’s the people with the frivolous lawsuits and those acting like getting in the smallest fender bender is a giant lottery winner that’ ruins it for legitimate claims. What effect do you think injury attorneys advertising these giant awards have? You notice how they all have dollar amounts shown and not “I got in a wreck and Gordon got my back to feel better”. The injury attorneys created this lottery ticket mentality.

Not to mention there is no regulation on these slimeball pain clinics that some of the attorneys have ownership stakes in. If these people were truly injured, why not go to a legitimate hospital/doctor instead of flim flam institutes?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62645 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:20 pm to
I'm pretty sure none of this matters. If the voters of Louisiana were allowed to vote on an amendment that would fix this problem, they'd vote no.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:21 pm to
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Two little boys crying wolf



Two little mice fell into a bucket of cream. . .
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86428 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:30 pm to
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Stop sidetracking the argument, no one is demonizing or wanting people with severe injuries to not be compensated. It’s the people with the frivolous lawsuits and those acting like getting in the smallest fender bender is a giant lottery winner that’ ruins it for legitimate claims. What effect do you think injury attorneys advertising these giant awards have? You notice how they all have dollar amounts shown and not “I got in a wreck and Gordon got my back to feel better”. The injury attorneys created this lottery ticket mentality.

Not to mention there is no regulation on these slimeball pain clinics that some of the attorneys have ownership stakes in. If these people were truly injured, why not go to a legitimate hospital/doctor instead of flim flam institutes?
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29279 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:32 pm to
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Unfortunately, his hunting trips and closeness to trial lawyers will leave an impression on the voters who hoped their rates would go down. His throwing the duly State wide elected Ins Commissioner, elected without opposition, under the bus will also doom another Governor run and perhaps the Ins. Commisioner, as well. The voters expect the rates to be competitive with other states and are not satisfied being the State with the highest rates.


I wish you were correct, but the people in this state are stupid. Not to mention the trial lawyers will throw huge money down to make sure their trough stays filled. The voters in this state are idiots and can’t tell you a damn thing about their representative other than if they have an R or D behind their name. Most of the vermin in our legislature are just democrats hiding with a R behind their name. The smart people in this state just pack their shite up and move rather than depend on the majority of idiots voting us out of it.
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