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re: Two Female Christian Artists Could Be JAILED For Not Creating Art For Same-Sex Weddings

Posted on 12/26/18 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47656 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 12:56 pm to
Damn you're stupid
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42123 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 12:57 pm to
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a fine of $2,500 each day they refuse to make the artwork


So if they decide to not pay the fine. Can they city legally shut their business down? Say they decide to say "frick the fine" will the city send them to jail? Really? For how long? Say the women are hardcore and are going to ride it out. No way they remain in jail until they are no longer in contempt. Right? So can the city force closure of the business? If so, this is a horrible, horrible precedent to set.

How people allow fricknuts to get elected and pass these types of laws blows my mind. How people don't go to city hall meetings and organize against this shite blows my mind. They wait until the shite is up in their business and money, then they want to fight.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 12:57 pm to
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I’m a conservative and rarely agree with liberals on anything but you are exactly right.


You’re no conservative
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42123 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 1:00 pm to
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If someone denies me service,I'd just go somewhere else.


YOU CAN'T DO THAT WHEN THE OUTRAGE TAKES COMMAND. BIGOTS MUST BE EXPOSED....RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


No really, logic you used doesn't work in leftist society. You can't simply just find another artist, baker, etc.. That's too hard, especially once you are so offended you feel unsafe, and your life threatened.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47656 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 1:00 pm to
don't spoil it for Darth - he's licking BBQ sauce off the fish hook
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57140 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 1:02 pm to
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That's not what they're being jailed for.


That is the precise reason I asked you “hypothetically”.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57140 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

Christians will make a big deal about taking a stand against baking a cake for a gay couple but don't give enough of a shite about the institution of marriage and hand wave frivolous divorce and remarraige which biblically is adultery.


Ok. Good point. What does that have to do with compelling someone to make a cake? Or the OP? Or anything? I get you want to bash Christians. Good job. I’m just not sure of the relevance as it pertains to the OP.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20826 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 1:04 pm to
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Funny though no Christian bakers / artists / pastors take any stance against people who divorce for non-biblical reasons and remarry.



How do you KNOW this? Could it be that nobody gives this any airplay nor attention if they did refuse thus it happens but never is noted due to the low key nature of the refusal?

Also, one who is a Christian baker/artist/pastor might have to dig for information to uncover this to be the case...that something is related to a divorce or if unbiblical principles are in play...a "Gay" marriage/wedding is overt in it's nature on its surface and requires no other info to cause the rift of morality.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72286 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 1:05 pm to
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Harry Rex Vonner


Your level of stupidity has to be a result of repeated severe beatings by your uncledaddy when you were a child.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42123 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 1:07 pm to
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Also, one who is a Christian baker/artist/pastor might have to dig for information to uncover this to be the case...that something is related to a divorce or if unbiblical principles are in play...a "Gay" marriage/wedding is overt in it's nature on its surface and requires no other info to cause the rift of morality.


Right, you'd have to know the couple coming in for a cake who were remarrying. Then what? You think they couple are going to sue you over it? I'd be surprised if they did. Or even if the city would even put any fight into forcing them to comply.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 1:11 pm to
Why do you say that?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47656 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 1:12 pm to
Why would you say that? You're the one making the cuck thread where you beg for big leftist forest hobos to grab you like Ned Beatty and bend you over.

your stupid fricking Phoenix city ordinance. It cannot force a human being to conduct a action, to build something, etc. Can't happen. People aren't fricking slaves, dumbass.

Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
101479 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 1:14 pm to
The dystopian, statist nightmare written about in "1984" has come from the left, not the right.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138153 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 1:15 pm to
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your stupid fricking Phoenix city ordinance. It cannot force a human being to conduct a action, to build something, etc. Can't happen. People aren't fricking slaves, dumbass.

So city ordinances aren't enforceable laws? I'm not following your logic.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36476 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 1:15 pm to
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Christian victims are my favorite


So do you believe that these circumstances are just random? Do you think this or the Colorado guy aren’t being targeted?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62011 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 1:16 pm to
But people kept asking," how is same sex marriage going to affect your life?"
Well, it's certainly affecting these two women's lives.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47656 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 1:19 pm to
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So city ordinances aren't enforceable laws? I'm not following your logic.


It's "an ordinance" that professes to force free human beings to conduct an action.

It's a myth. It's a figment of some leftist fricktard's imagination.

It's not an ordinance.
This post was edited on 12/26/18 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55386 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 1:23 pm to
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That proves my point.


No...

quote:

Divorce rate in the church is as high as out of the church and usually just because they can't bother to work hard at being married.


No... The current divorce rate is about 30% while the cheating rate is about 60%

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138153 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 1:23 pm to
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It's "an ordinance" that professes to force free human beings to conduct an action.

It's a myth. It's a figment of some leftist fricktard's imagination.

It's not an ordinance.

I'm not a lawyer, so I guess that's why I'm not following. How is this not an ordinance and how are they making up the jail time/fine if it's not an ordinance? Where are you getting your info from?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 1:23 pm to
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The dystopian, statist nightmare written about in "1984" has come from the left, not the right.
No. Look at a Nolan chart. These behaviors come from the Authoritarian half of the plane, and that includes about 85% of Dems and about 60% of the GOP.
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