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re: Turns out supply side is keeping prices low to keep market share

Posted on 7/30/25 at 11:47 am to
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27177 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 11:47 am to
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Because he reads government CPI numbers and his goal is 2% inflation. The CPI is above 2% right now. When CPI gets below 2% he will cut.

But Trump is right to call Powell "Too Late Powell" because the FR is always reactionary instead of proactive.

That is the blue pilled argument which is an argument within the current system.


He is keeping the rate to hurt Trump.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138865 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 12:12 pm to
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but Powell can’t? Isn’t he a PHD?
He's a lawyer.

The Fed is a mess under his leadership.
Posted by Bring Da Wood
Texas
Member since Dec 2006
2229 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 12:15 pm to
You are correct and that is what non panicans projected back in April. Also supply is not constrained by unnecessary regulations to the levels it was under Joetato. The announcement yesterday is huge as even more regulations will be removed. People don’t realize the monetary cost on producers created by those regulations.

Also, remember that asshat Powell lowered rates last fall when we had a much higher inflation rate.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299260 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 12:16 pm to
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Turns out supply side is keeping prices low to keep market share


Who does this benefit?

Who does this hurt?


Find these two answers, and you'll realize that Tariffs are simply crony capitalism in action
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 12:17 pm to
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There’s little chance any public company will hurt investors by eating these costs but we’ll see.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299260 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 12:18 pm to
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These corporations will rape you, but not slap you cuz that would be rude.


These tariffs frick small business and help massive corporations.

Which is the actual goal.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2398 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 12:19 pm to
Tariffs should be no business to the Fed. Money supply - is too tight or too lose or just right. That is it.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37521 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 12:22 pm to
That's unsustainable long term. Sooner or later retailers and wholesalers will be forced to pass on the price of the imported goods with the tariff factored in. They are not going to operate at just break even or a loss, even if you factor in a little bit lower fuel price that the oil companies won't let it slide below 65 / barrel for too long. They want and need the price between 67 -78 barrel. 65 is acceptable but only for so long.
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9744 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 12:26 pm to
I don’t disagree that it helps those already established, that have market share. But to lay crony capitalism at Trumps feet is disingenuous. Just because he is righting the ship doesn’t mean the big corps haven’t been benefiting from corruption over the last 30 years. He comes along and puts free market principles into play that will ultimately benefit America, and you think the elitism is owned by him? Nah
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299260 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 12:28 pm to
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. But to lay crony capitalism at Trumps feet is disingenuous.


Why? It IS crony capitalism on steroids. Are you saying he has no part in this?

Big Corp can eat those costs temporarily, do you know who cannot?
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9744 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 12:31 pm to
Yeah well sorry, there is a new sheriff in town and it’s not business as usual.

Regardless of how much doom and gloom you see in the future, it has not been proven out to be true, just the opposite
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299260 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 12:32 pm to
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Yeah well sorry, there is a new sheriff in town and it’s not business as usual





Crony capitalism is not business as usual? lololol

quote:



Regardless of how much doom and gloom you see in the future, it has not been proven out to be true, just the opposite


Yes, rewarding woke corporation that worked against you for decades will somehow turn out better!

"hey corporate bros, I know you've been ripping off consumers for decades and i'm gonna help you even more by stifling competition."
This post was edited on 7/30/25 at 12:36 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138865 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 12:39 pm to
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Who does this benefit?
Taxpayers
quote:

Who does this hurt?
Foreign companies eating the price increase. Just as you and others were told would happen.

quote:

Find these two answers, and you'll realize that Tariffs are simply crony capitalism in action
Nah.
As has been explained, and as these two answers demonstrate, this is a way to raise government revenue and have foreigners shoulder a portion of the expense.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299260 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 12:40 pm to
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Foreign companies eating the price increase
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89760 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 12:40 pm to
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It’s a shame that business has to swallow these costs



shite you were just saying the customers will pay it all.


Make up your minds.

Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11354 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 1:28 pm to
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Because he reads government CPI numbers and his goal is 2% inflation. The CPI is above 2% right now. When CPI gets below 2% he will cut.


Why do we even need Powell then?

Let's save some money. I'll read a single number and adjust the rates accordingly for $50k a year. And I'll cancel the renovation.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16401 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 1:34 pm to
From the same article that you linked

“With the latest sharp escalation in tariffs on China, U.S. orders for Chinese factories are getting canceled and Chinese manufacturers say they can’t lower prices further for U.S. customers.”

Why wouldn’t you have mentioned this?

Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16401 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 1:35 pm to
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shite you were just saying the customers will pay it all.


Huh?

Where did I say that customers will pay it all?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 2:12 pm to
Great. That’s not going to continue long-term.
Posted by AUauditor
Georgia
Member since Sep 2004
1703 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 2:54 pm to
The $250m company where I work produces internally 85% of our products and purchased for sale the other 15% (based on sales dollars). Of the 15%, roughly 80% of those type products sold in the US comes from overseas. Out of the 85%, we have a few foreign-sourced components, but that is a small part of our business. About two years ago, we moved from any sourceing from China. From the other sources (e.g., Vietnam, Cambodia, etc.), we have negotiated with our suppliers and they are absorbing roughly half or more of the tariffs. So - some is being paid by American's who choose to buy foreign-made products while much of it is being absorbed by the foreign companies wanting to keep getting access to the American consumer.

As with the other negotiations Trump is making, the world wants access to our markets. In the past, when tariffs "did not work," the buying-power of American citizens was not so great and companies only moved manufacturing over here in order to be more price-competitive on high-ticket items (e.g., cars). NOW...they are promising investments in America to have this access WITHOUT tariffs. I personally did not think it would be effective and held my breath...right now, it would appear that Trump was right.
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