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re: Tucker Carlson says no one's been killed by radical islam in the past 24 years ....

Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:10 pm to
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Holy Mother of God at the schitty thread title. The guy said no such thing. What a self-beclowning.


The transcript of the entire conversation proves you to be factually incorrect, or outright lying.

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At the time my office was half a mile from Pulse nightclub. I knew people that were there that night. I met the OPD SWAT officer that was the number 1 man in the building. At the time I met him he had a massive lump on his forehead where the radical Islamic terrorist shot him in the head. Thankfully the ballistic helmet he was wearing stopped the round, which wasn't a guarantee by the way. If the shooter had used widely available, military surplus ammunition commonly called green tip or if his aim had been 3 inches lower he would have killed the OPD officer.

Tucker has gone completely off the rails with his paid Qatari bullshite. He deserves to be mocked and ridiculed and shunned, not just from conservative circles, but from polite society as a whole. Let him go live in his Qatari house that he just bragged about purchasing.
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:13 pm to
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And also conveniently uses in the last 24 years…9-11 was 24 years and 3 months ago


Until Fuentes links the Jews to 9-11
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:17 pm to
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And you will continue to ignore the obvious issues with Carlson’s statement.


This is a non sequitur. I indeed acknowledged my own misgivings about Carlson’s perspective above:

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…I certainly acknowledge that our personal experiences should not — in and of itself — preclude the existence of a larger threat. Just because we may not know anyone personally killed by radical Islam doesn’t mean it isn’t a national security risk.

To illustrate: I might not personally know anyone who has died from a fentanyl overdose, but I wouldn’t deny that the opioid crisis is real. Similarly, even if Carlson doesn’t personally know anyone who was killed by radical Islam, that doesn’t mean it’s not a threat to our nation’s national security.


So we are in agreement that there are important issues to consider about Carlson’s arguments. Yet while I agree that we should critically assess Carlson’s statements, it is likewise essential to engage with those statements accurately to have a meaningful discussion about the actual argument being made, not arguing over a false interpretation of Carlson’s argument.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:21 pm to
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I agree that fent, porn and video games are bigger problems than Islamic terrorism.


I always knew we could find common ground.

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What does Israel have to do with fent, porn and video games?


Probably nothing. But if you go off an die to fight a war in the ME; you could argue that you never had fentanyl to inject or porn to jerk off to.
Posted by Enadious
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:24 pm to
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I don’t know if I’d consider that supporting radical Islam. I don’t know…

Tucker, take your arse off Tigerdroppings!
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:25 pm to
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The transcript of the entire conversation proves you to be factually incorrect, or outright lying.


Posted by RED DAWN REDUX
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:28 pm to
Was it radical Islam that rounded up hundreds of folks and threw them in jails and prisons for Jan 6th?

Was it radical Islam why we went into Iraq and killed hundreds of thousands of people? Hint: Zionism and Oil

Was it radical Islam that kept us in Afghanistan for 20 years? Hint: Opium and China

Was it Qatar where the majority of 9/11 hijacker's came from? Hint: Saudi Arabia

Stop watching that brain rot
on cable news…think for yourself.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9007 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:37 pm to
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Do we have reason to fear Islam or not?

Ivory bill, I mean ewereere, can’t answer that honestly. It’s the Jews fault.


Of course, on the fringes (the 40 or so Muslims I know personally are hardworking conservatives), Islam can be problematic. It's just way down on the list in the United States of things about which to worry.

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:42 pm to
I don’t know. I didn’t click.

It’s a choice to read into things other than what they are.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
5947 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:42 pm to
Two were killed at a Naval recruitment center in Chattanooga as well
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
5947 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:43 pm to
He has lost it just like Bunk and Rog on here, their feelings have been hurt
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
7500 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:46 pm to
He’s off the cliff; no longer legitimate or credible. Ignore him. Dead to me.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 12:58 pm to
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Probably nothing.

So you would agree that Tucker conflating Israel influence with our fent/drug, porn and indolence issues is not a super concise or accurate argument.
Posted by NashvilleTider
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 1:00 pm to
He is a fool, Islam, as our greatest enemy Israel is our best ally. I support Israel to the death. Anyone against them is against God.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 1:01 pm to
That’s a hilariously dumb take. And I certainly don’t come close to agreeing with it.

You’re just being silly to obfuscate the issue along with the other Israel-obsessed posters?
Posted by the808bass
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 1:03 pm to
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not arguing over a false interpretation of Carlson’s argument.


I don’t have a problem with that. But it does seem obvious Tucker’s overall intent is to downplay the threat of Islam.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 1:15 pm to
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Was it radical Islam that rounded up hundreds of folks and threw them in jails and prisons for Jan 6th?

No, that was their partners in crime ... the left, the radical DEMONcRATS.

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Was it radical Islam why we went into Iraq and killed hundreds of thousands of people? Hint: Zionism and Oil

I agree ... we never should have gone into Iraq. That was our other major enemies ... the Bushes, the NWO Globalists, the Davos crowd, the NeoCons. They too are in cahoots with Saudi big oil, the Israelis, the Rothschild Cabal and the so-called academic elite.

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Was it radical Islam that kept us in Afghanistan for 20 years? Hint: Opium and China

Yeah ... that was radical islam. 100%

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Was it Qatar where the majority of 9/11 hijacker's came from? Hint: Saudi Arabia

Where that particular group came from is inconsequential. The fact that our icorrupt ntelligence apparatus completely dropped the ball is very consequential. The repercussions and reverberations are still being felt today.

Our intelligence apparatus is for another conversation all together ... the alphabet agencies, our shadow government, the deep state and the sewer rats, are a completely different problem. Never confuse that problem and their lies, deceptions, and misdirections with the threat we face from Radical Islam.

Be smarter than that. Learn to think for yourself. You're being willingly manipulated. You're being gullible. The deep state controls mass media. The deep state controls the narrative. The deep state controls your beliefs. Try reading more, as I do. Try being friends with people in the business, as I am. Try researching things completely off the beaten path. Try working in far away places, as I have done almost my entire adult life except for a few years. Try living in other countries. And then get back to me about how all wise and knowing you are when it comes to this mess we find ourselves in today.

We're on the precipice. If this country falls it's game over. My first wife was British. I met her in Newcastle while hospitalized there recovering from an injury I sustained while training with the SAS up in Redesdale, Otterburn. I am shocked at what the UK has become under the joined hands of the NWO Marxist Globalists and Radical Islam.

Keep this in mind. Marx was a luciferian ... a Satanist. The NWO Globalists Marxists are Satanists. They have entered into a pact with Radical Islam. Ask yourself why?

Why has radical islam and NWO Globalists Marxists allied with one another?

When you answer that, then you will realize why they needed Tucker Carlson, and others like him, to sow doubt and dissection among the Conservative masses.

Ask yourself why it was so vital for their radical Marxist (Satanist) cause to infiltrate Christian churches with pedophilia and homosexuality and transvestites.

Ask yourself, when in fact 60% of all Jews are secular, non practicing, non religious Jews ... ask yourself why they vote for Marxist candidates ... for far left candidates ... for radical Islamists candidates.

When you can answer those questions then you'll understand what's behind their front men ... Tucker, Candance, et al.

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Stop watching that brain rot
on cable news…think for yourself.

Lol ... just lol.

Regards
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 2:08 pm to
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It's just way down on the list in the United States of things about which to worry.



I certainly wouldn’t go that far. I believe it is more correct to say that radical Islam is a subsidiary concern — and indeed an outgrowth — of our nation’s perpetual interventionist approach to Middle Eastern affairs.

How many millions upon untold millions of supposed U.S. “humanitarian” aid has gone directly into the coffers of Hamas? This is a classic example of “blowback” — the term for unforeseen consequences.

Indeed, the U.S. and Israel’s support for democratic elections in Gaza in the mid-2000s — initially intended to bolster Palestinian democracy and weaken the power of the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) and the Fatah movement — had significant unintended consequences. This half-baked attempt to import “democracy” into the region ultimately opened the door for a terrorist organization like Hamas to emerge as a legitimate political player in Gaza.

Yet even after Hamas won the election, the Bush Administration maintained its stance of promoting American style democracy despite the inconvenient fact that Hamas — a group the Bush Administration itself labeled as a terrorist organization — won a majority in the much ballyhooed Gazan elections. Rather than acknowledging it’s own catastrophic failure of encouraging the democratization of militant Islam, the Bush Administration instead focused on the political failures of Fatah and the need for reform.





Bush Defends His Goal of Spreading Democracy to the Mideast…

WASHINGTON, Jan. 26 - The sweeping victory of Hamas in the Palestinian elections threw President Bush and his aides on the defensive on Thursday, complicating the administration's policy of trying to promote democracy as an antidote to the spread of terrorism.

Reacting uneasily to the Hamas triumph, Mr. Bush said the results spoke to the failures of President Mahmoud Abbas and the "old guard" of his Fatah faction to root out corruption and mismanagement, not to any flaws in the administration's policy of advocating democracy.

"There was a peaceful process as people went to the polls, and that's positive," Mr. Bush said. "But what's also positive is that it's a wake-up call to the leadership. Obviously people were not happy with the status quo. The people are demanding honest government. The people want services."

…The problem faced by the administration on Thursday was how to coax Hamas into the mainstream. The West has more tools than mere diplomatic pressure to influence Hamas and the Palestinian Authority. Europe and the United States provide most of the $1 billion in foreign assistance that goes to the Palestinians.


Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67578 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 2:17 pm to
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there’s no radical Islam , it’s normal Islam…



Islam is a strange religion by our standards, and some of its adherents,
especially in third world countries, engage in practices most of us would condemn. There's little doubt about that. But a large majority of Muslims are not terrorists, contrary to the belief of a lot of our esteemed posters...
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43428 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:25 pm to
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So you would agree that Tucker conflating Israel influence with our fent/drug, porn and indolence issues is not a super concise or accurate argument.


Not at all. That's not what he said. He wasn't conflating them.

Quite the opposite.
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