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re: Tucker Carlson says Moscow, Russia is "nicer than any city" in the United States
Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:51 am to David_DJS
Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:51 am to David_DJS
Actually I was part of a set up for my client in 2010 when they decided to open up an office in Moscow. I dealt with "legal" concerns mostly. Had to go there 2x for a month each time. The corruption you deal with there is profound. Everybody has their hand out from the local politicians and some national ones in the Duma to low level bureaucrats.....and then there are their associates in the private sector some of which do not try to hide their tattoos.
We like to bitch in the states about bureaucracy and a little graft, it is nothing when dealing with institutionalized state sanctioned graft like Russia where very little is transparent.
We like to bitch in the states about bureaucracy and a little graft, it is nothing when dealing with institutionalized state sanctioned graft like Russia where very little is transparent.
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:56 am to PrecedentedTimes
The Moscow subway was built by gulag slave labor.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 11:02 am to KiwiHead
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Actually I was part of a set up for my client in 2010 when they decided to open up an office in Moscow. I dealt with "legal" concerns mostly. Had to go there 2x for a month each time. The corruption you deal with there is profound. Everybody has their hand out from the local politicians and some national ones in the Duma to low level bureaucrats.....and then there are their associates in the private sector some of which do not try to hide their tattoos.
Without disclosing anything private, what kind of scale are we talking about? As a percentage of revenue or percentage of running costs, how much does the corruption cost?
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We like to bitch in the states about bureaucracy and a little graft, it is nothing when dealing with institutionalized state sanctioned graft like Russia where very little is transparent.
I've traveled enough to know firsthand how fortunate we are in the US - as business people and as citizens.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 11:21 am to TBoy
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If you go outside of the shiny city you will find crumbling infrastructure and repression
So not much different than many large US cities run by democrats?
Posted on 2/13/24 at 11:33 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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What is Tucker's point though?
Seriously, Clark?
The point is that we are the shithole now, versus many of these other places we've been told are much worse authoritarian, dangerous shitholes... and we need to examine how things here got this way... and maybe figure out a way to fix it.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 11:39 am to EKG
Pretty much everywhere in Europe has a nicer, better kept metro than NYC. Not the best point of comparison lol.
And if you want to see really nice and efficient stations, Japan is unrivaled.
And if you want to see really nice and efficient stations, Japan is unrivaled.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 11:39 am to David_DJS
I would say whatever you were planning to spend if you were stateside even with some graft, tack on about 60% above that mark just to be safe.Our cost overrun was approaching 45% of what it would cost in NYC so if you were going to spend 1 million.....add about an extra 450-550K just to be safe.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 11:39 am to SDVTiger
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Super clean and super hot model chicks everywhere
Yep..check some of the walking tours of Moscow on Youtube and you would be amazed at the well dress pretty ladies everywhere. Also, I've yet to see a piece of trash littering the sidewalks or streets. Of course, the demographics are a lot different from many of our big cities IMO. Go figure!
Posted on 2/13/24 at 11:41 am to LSUbest
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Conservative Right Winger = Putin sympathizer.
Head in the sand much?
Posted on 2/13/24 at 12:25 pm to KiwiHead
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I would say whatever you were planning to spend if you were stateside even with some graft, tack on about 60% above that mark just to be safe.Our cost overrun was approaching 45% of what it would cost in NYC so if you were going to spend 1 million.....add about an extra 450-550K just to be safe.
That's more than I would have guessed. Damn.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 12:47 pm to David_DJS
After you got the Russian Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval it would calm down a bit. But we had to have Russians on the payroll. Some were very good and would help you navigate the morass there. Then there were some that we just "needed" to have. They served no other function other than if you did not have them, business gets harder to do.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 2/13/24 at 12:56 pm to CleverUserName
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The difference is Eastern European and Asian countries won’t allow and punish vagrants, vandals, and littering. Goes without saying they also punish thieves and assailants.
Thieves and assailants yes, but that's just a homeless guy in that picture. What can they reasonably do about this?
Posted on 2/13/24 at 12:58 pm to KiwiHead
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After you got the Russian Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval it would calm down a bit. But we had to have Russians on the payroll. Some were very good and would help you navigate the morass there. Then there were some that we just "needed" to have. They served no other function other than if you did not have them, business gets harder to do.
In the end, did the Russian office make your client enough to make it all worthwhile?
Posted on 2/13/24 at 1:01 pm to TIGRLEE
quote:I don't care to air travel anymore but the Holy Land and Moscow were the only two on my bucket list. Odd combination I know.
Wouldn’t know
Never been there
Posted on 2/13/24 at 1:17 pm to LuckyTiger
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I can say unequivocally they are nicer and cleaner looking than American cities.
Nicer than any demprog run city.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 1:19 pm to EKG
Never been to Russia. Can say that the horse stables in my barn are nice than any American city as well. Cleaner and they smell better too.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 2/13/24 at 1:20 pm to TejasHorn
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Pretty much everywhere in Europe has a nicer, better kept metro than NYC. Not the best point of comparison lol.
And if you want to see really nice and efficient stations, Japan is unrivaled.
Korea's subways are modern and immaculate also.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 1:23 pm to PrecedentedTimes
It's because these cities don't have any (or many) _____ living there
Posted on 2/13/24 at 1:24 pm to stampman
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Of course, the demographics are a lot different from many of our big cities IMO
Demographics is destiny.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 1:29 pm to SirWinston
Yep… sadly
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