re: Tucker: Wuhan Virus pandemic likely originated from a Chinese laboratory

Ugh, haven't had my coffee yet. My bad.

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My bad.

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Headed that way myself.

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A quick google search revealed no hits between that species and coronavirus.

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Wow! Just wow.

No hits between "Horseshoe Bats and coronavirus?
Seriously?

At this point I've got to wonder if you're trying to protect a family member who works at the Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Prevention or something.

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Seems to overlap with Wuhan to me.

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It doesn't.

2017 article about the Chinese researching zoonotic viruses.

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I didn’t say bats aren’t a vector.

I questioned the claim that it was proven it came directly from a bat (previously it was indicated that the source vector was a bat, but the infection came through a civet or pangolin intermediate in Wuhan), and more to the point, that it was identified to be conclusively isolated to a particular variety of bat.

Stop talking what you think you know, and give me a scientific link that COVID-19 came from horseshoe bats and only horseshoe bats.

I’m not saying it’s impossible or even improbable. Bats are obviously the primary vector of coronavirus.

I’m just calling bullshite on the train of logic that “Obviously it came from a lab because it came from this particular bat that doesn’t reside within 1000km of Wuhan and that precludes all other reasonable possibilities. ”

You keep on writing these long paragraphs, some of them even mocking me saying I can’t find scientific literature connecting definitively COVID-19 as coming directly from horseshoe bats with no intermediate hosts.

Less rhetoric and appeals to “common knowledge” and more evidence.
Post. A. Scientific. Link. Supporting. It.

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You gonna tell me that doesn’t overlap either, huh

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Wuhan sits at the northernmost extent of the base of the "U".

In a decade and a half, Shi Zhengli ( LINK) has not noted capturing any of her corona infected bats near Wuhan. To the contrary, they invariably originate from caves well south, near Vietnam. You'd know that if you had read material linked in previous responses to you.

I have actually. But as typical, it doesn’t say what you claim they say. And reading the attached posts that you bring it up as evidence indicates selective reading of the post.

For instance:

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In a decade and a half, Shi Zhengli ( LINK) has not noted capturing any of her corona infected bats near Wuhan.

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This is never stated or even hinted at. Closest is a statement that she expected it to come to a rural south west. But it doesn’t state she didn’t find or even focused her search near Wuhan.

In fact, it says the opposite. Her focus on the search was for biodiversity hotbeds.

She didn’t check in Africa either, but I’m sure the viruses are there.

One gem I liked:

You expressly stated in the past the whole “no bat in the area means it probably came from the lab connection”
You used this post to try to validate that point of view.

And even if you want to assume that to be true, your own source offers a plausible alternative belief:

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Given that the virus seems fairly stable and that many infected individuals appear to have mild symptoms, scientists suspect the pathogen might have been around for weeks or even months before the first severe cases raised alarm. “There might have been mini outbreaks, but the virus burned out” before causing havoc, Baric says. “The Wuhan outbreak is by no means incidental.” In other words, there was an element of inevitability to it.

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Don’t get snippy just because I disagree with your conclusions because I’ve read the two sources you provided far more closely than you.

Still waiting for a link connecting determining definitively COVID-19 to horseshoe bats with no intermediate host assisting the jump.

You continue to want to type a lot without providing that, again in spite of mocking me for saying I couldn’t. You’d think it’ll be easy to find, no? Especially after Tucker alluded to it?