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re: trump’s reopening plan: has the “blessing” of fauci/ Birx, gives governors the nod

Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125718 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

really don't know what treating "all patients without critical care" means.


It says without “crisis care.”
Posted by BoomNation
wetumpka. alabama
Member since Feb 2015
2099 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:21 pm to




quote:

Whats the timeline on each phase?


Symptoms
Downward trajectory of Influenza like illness reported within 14-day period

and Downward trajectory of covid-19 like symptoms reported in a 14 day period

Cases
Downward trajectory of documented cases reported within a 14 day period
or
Downward trajectory of positive tests as a percent of total tests within a 14 day period


Hospitals
Treat all patients without crisis care
and
Robust testing program in place for all at risk health care workers including emerging antibody testing
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56127 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

He is giving governors the go-ahead to completely ruin the economy and steal 6 months to a year of life from everyone.



He is giving each governor their own sink or swim option concerning the economy which if they sink chances are you'll see an opposite party candidate winning that office come the next election.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125718 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:22 pm to
I’m not sure that answers my question.

A state could reopen in 14 days to phase 1. When can they go to Phase 2?
Posted by Presidio
Member since Nov 2017
3060 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:24 pm to
So it sounds like a best-case scenario is six weeks to reach phase 3
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37092 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

It says without “crisis care.”
Thank you.
Posted by Presidio
Member since Nov 2017
3060 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

A state could reopen in 14 days to phase 1. When can they go to Phase 2?


another 14 days
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5293 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

A state could reopen in 14 days to phase 1. When can they go to Phase 2?



FOR STATES AND REGIONS WITH NO EVIDENCE OF
A REBOUND AND THAT SATISFY THE GATING
CRITERIA A SECOND TIME

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125718 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:26 pm to
So does that mean another 14 days?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37092 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

I’m not sure that answers my question.

A state could reopen in 14 days to phase 1. When can they go to Phase 2?
It sounds like 14 days after starting Phase 1 if they still have downward trajectories.

Chromedome's state by state breakdown is going to start getting a lot of attention.
This post was edited on 4/16/20 at 4:28 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125718 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:27 pm to
Got it.
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4940 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:27 pm to
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Fauci and Birx having a heavy role is NOT good news - these were the same two who told Trump to shut down the whole country earlier this year as per Fauci's admission.

Prepare to be disappointed


Agreed, expect these to be unnecessarily conservative guidelines.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

A state could reopen in 14 days to phase 1. When can they go to Phase 2?


Re-reading it now. It says if there's no evidence of a surge and the same 14 day trends are met again.

Looks like best case would be 42 days.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125718 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:28 pm to
So in total, we’ll only be keeping people from their first amendment rights for 10-12 weeks or more.

Thank God for freedom.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49153 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:29 pm to
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He is giving governors the go-ahead to completely ruin the economy and steal 6 months to a year of life from everyone.


Are you one of these virus hoax people?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120221 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:31 pm to
Are you one of those people who doesn’t mind that we moved the goal post from not overwhelming hospitals to saving every fat and old person possible?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29838 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:32 pm to
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Allowing the government to micromanage our lives over a virus that kills 1-3% or less. What happened to the land of the free and home of the brave?



You are really off on your percentages. 3-10 million people aren't dying.
This post was edited on 4/16/20 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49153 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

Are you one of those people who doesn’t mind that we moved the goal post from not overwhelming hospitals to saving every fat and old person possible?


Well, I am looking at a document which pretty clearly indicates that the goalpost haven't shifted.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:33 pm to
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Are you one of these virus hoax people?



I'm one of those "this has probably all been an overreaction but either way the government doesn't have the right to do this to us" people.

We could very well see spikes every time things are opened up, and that would mean this would go on indefinitely until there's a vaccine.

Which means Trump is endorsing the most cautious approach possible, economy and life be damned.
This post was edited on 4/16/20 at 4:35 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120221 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:35 pm to


Sure you are. You’ve been in support of this nonsense from the start.
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