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re: Trump's new "immigration deal" is a huge choke job; giving farm away for little to nothing
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:00 pm to dantes69
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:00 pm to dantes69
quote:doesn't work like that...
come March 6th when daca expires start deportation and blame it on the dumbs.
Any deportation is something that Republicans had the power to prevent, and if they let it happen, they're the ones who have power to do it.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:09 pm to TejasHorn
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You're not getting a Mexican-paid wall either.
Yes we are building the wall and Mexico is going to pay for it in the end.
You are stupid if you thought we were going to wait until Mexico pays for the wall before we start building it.
You are even more stupid if you think we are going to ask Mexico to pay for the wall before we started building the wall.
We'll start building the wall first and while we are building it, we will find several ways to make sure Mexico ends up paying for it.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:13 pm to Sentrius
So let me get this straight...
It's ok for rich people to give their friends and corporate partners massive tax breaks and further advantage the super rich...
But it is illegals stealing the jobs that Americans won't do, that is affecting your money...
Gimme a fricking break.
It's ok for rich people to give their friends and corporate partners massive tax breaks and further advantage the super rich...
But it is illegals stealing the jobs that Americans won't do, that is affecting your money...
Gimme a fricking break.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:15 pm to JuiceTerry
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He'll change his mind again
Trumps everything the Democrats pretended they wanted from the other side for years.
All of his campaign promises were just starting points. In the end, y'all will get a lot of what you want and still feign outrage. It's what democrats do best.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:16 pm to chalmetteowl
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Any deportation is something that Republicans had the power to prevent, and if they let it happen, they're the ones who have power to do it.
Meh, the Dums just had the opportunity to end the possible deportation of 1.8 million Dreamers and the Dums flat out rejected the proposal.
It will be the fault of the Dums if any Dreamers get deported in the future.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:18 pm to CoachChappy
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quote:
I hope so. I really do.
I've stopped second guessing the man. He just wins every time no matter how crazy his original plan or statement sounds.
I don't trust anything. I am aware that this is a likely possibility, but we have to be ready in case shite hits the fan in negotiations
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:18 pm to chalmetteowl
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Any deportation is something that Republicans had the power to prevent, and if they let it happen, they're the ones who have power to do it.
Illegals need to be deported
What you'll end up with is a law that gives them some legal status.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:20 pm to Sentrius
quote:False.
This is not a deal. This is a DACA on steroids with no benefits for Americans and basically a repeat of Reagan's 1986
This is DACAs awarded Green Cards in exchange for tightened immigration, border security, and the wall.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:22 pm to Seldom Seen
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He hasn't. I've watched TRUMP all throughout the election and since he's been president. He's always said he wants a pathway for the Dreamers its just that it has to be tied to The Wall and Border Security.
That's always been his position he hasn't changed people just hear what they want to hear.
I swear y'all are worse than Obama's sheep
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:24 pm to Sentrius
20 year fence on citizenship..period
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:28 pm to Sentrius
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Trump supporters need to understand that Trump doesn't bat a thousand and never will.
Since you like baseball analogies, I'll put it this way...NO President comes close to batting 1.000...but unlike his predecessor, so far President Trump is hitting well above the Mendoza Line.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:30 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:As are you.
So now we're just ignoring and rewriting history to coddle The geotus
Here is a little reminder from September.
Remember now?
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:31 pm to Sentrius
You make sure to tell us when an actual deal is in place
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:31 pm to NC_Tigah
That's great NC, truly great.
Are you claiming that's always been his position? Please don't claim that.
Are you claiming that's always been his position? Please don't claim that.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:33 pm to NC_Tigah
I don't think there's an "immigration deal" you can get >50% of the House GOP and 9 Dem Senators to agree on. That's just the way things are right now.
You could maybe get a very narrow DACA deal if you toss the amnesty/path to citizenship and toss the changes to legal immigration, and make it something along the lines of indefinite DACA renewal for enforcement-only provisions while kicking everything else down the road.
But the reactions here tell me there's too wide a gulf for anything "comprehensive."
You could maybe get a very narrow DACA deal if you toss the amnesty/path to citizenship and toss the changes to legal immigration, and make it something along the lines of indefinite DACA renewal for enforcement-only provisions while kicking everything else down the road.
But the reactions here tell me there's too wide a gulf for anything "comprehensive."
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:34 pm to Sentrius
Seems like another negotiating tactic. I highly doubt what is revealed there will ever become law.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:44 pm to Sentrius
He always said stop the bleeding first
Posted on 1/26/18 at 4:19 pm to JuiceTerry
Posted on 1/26/18 at 4:23 pm to Iosh
quote:So if something comprehensive happens, (and as it didn't even when Obama owned a filibuster-proof Congress), you'll give "ArtOfTheDeal" its due?
But the reactions here tell me there's too wide a gulf for anything "comprehensive."
Posted on 1/26/18 at 4:24 pm to SirWinston
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I'm kind of okay with it so long as we really close the door on all future illegals.
This deal really doesn't even do that at all.
It's not even a deal. It's a capitulation.
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he's going to need Dem cooperation on an upcoming infrastructure bill.
Infrastructure isn't shite and only counts for peanuts in the long run.
Immigration is the end all be all and if Trump insists on this proposal that does nothing at all to keep Florida, Georgia and Texas from turning blue, I'm perfectly fine with the status quo being maintained and no Trump cucking out.
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