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Trump's Executive Order did not set a date for the release of the JFK / RFK / MLK.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 7:33 am
Posted on 1/24/25 at 7:33 am
The Executive Order did not release the JFK / RFK / MLK assassination files, nor did it set a date for the release of the files. It merely requires the Director of National Intelligence and the Attorney General to present plans to Trump to for the full and complete release of records relating to the assassinations within 15 days for JFK and within 45 days for RFK and MLK.
DECLASSIFICATION OF RECORDS CONCERNING THE ASSASSINATIONS OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY, SENATOR ROBERT F. KENNEDY, AND THE REVEREND DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.
quote:I am not doubting that the files will be released soon, but the Executive Order did not require the files to be released now or at any specific date in the future. I'm merely noting that the files have not been released yet.
(a) Within 15 days of the date of this order, the Director of National Intelligence and the Attorney General shall, in coordination with the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs and the Counsel to the President, present a plan to the President for the full and complete release of records relating to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
(b) Within 45 days of the date of this order, the Director of National Intelligence and the Attorney General shall, in coordination with the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs and the Counsel to the President, review records related to the assassinations of Senator Robert F. Kennedy and the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and present a plan to the President for the full and complete release of these records.
DECLASSIFICATION OF RECORDS CONCERNING THE ASSASSINATIONS OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY, SENATOR ROBERT F. KENNEDY, AND THE REVEREND DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 7:37 am to Salviati
This is obviously a better way to go about it than simply issuing an order to release them. Get them to draft a plan and then issue an order that holds them to that plan.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 7:41 am to imjustafatkid
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This is obviously a better way to go about it than simply issuing an order to release them. Get them to draft a plan and then issue an order that holds them to that plan.
And we all assume that nothing will happen to those documents within that 45 day window. Honestly, I don’t see how nothing has happened to those files, considering the depth of corruption they very likely show, in the amount of time they’ve been classified and falsified.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 7:41 am to Salviati
Most of the good stuff has already been dog eaten or redacted so the smoke and mirrors continues.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 7:41 am to Salviati
Anyone expecting there to have been a switch flipped and a website went live with all of the info was dealing with unrealistic expectations.
This is still going to be a matter of drip-drip-drip, due to the unprecedented levels of red tape protecting this information. What's released (especially at first) is likely to be redacted AF.
This is still going to be a matter of drip-drip-drip, due to the unprecedented levels of red tape protecting this information. What's released (especially at first) is likely to be redacted AF.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 7:52 am to VoxDawg
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This is still going to be a matter of drip-drip-drip, due to the unprecedented levels of red tape protecting this information.
My guess is that there will be no big revelations about who killed them. And the reason these files have been secret is because these huge investigations probably turned up a lot of very embarrassing information that has little to do with the crime being investigated - stuff like affairs and shady business dealings.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 7:54 am to Penrod
Yep exactly too much embarrassing info on powerful people although I’d argue it would just confirm what most of us think anyway
Posted on 1/24/25 at 8:05 am to DMagic
Didn’t see other thread
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 8:08 am
Posted on 1/24/25 at 8:13 am to Salviati
Does it really matter?
Because ALL THE EVIDENCE PROVES Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK, Officer Tippit, and almost killed Governor Connally and Edwin Walker.
Need to stop believing leftist bullshite by Oliver Stone, Mark Lane, Jim Garrison, Robert Groden, and other left-wing loonies who have made big $$$ selling movies, books, bullshite tv docu-propaganda hyping all these bullshite conspiracies to deflect blame from the proven fact that a lone communist fanatic attention seeker from New Orleans killed the President.
Get over it.
LHO killed JFK
Because ALL THE EVIDENCE PROVES Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK, Officer Tippit, and almost killed Governor Connally and Edwin Walker.
Need to stop believing leftist bullshite by Oliver Stone, Mark Lane, Jim Garrison, Robert Groden, and other left-wing loonies who have made big $$$ selling movies, books, bullshite tv docu-propaganda hyping all these bullshite conspiracies to deflect blame from the proven fact that a lone communist fanatic attention seeker from New Orleans killed the President.
Get over it.
LHO killed JFK
Posted on 1/24/25 at 8:26 am to Salviati
Let the USA and CIA just reveal to the whole world how we spied on the Mafia, Soviet Union, and Fidel Castro only to find out they actually had nothing to do with the assassination of JFK or influencing LHO
Give away our tactics of obtaining foreign intelligence to our enemies overseas. Expose who are spies and informants and protected witnesses are to close the case that any outside influence on Lee Harvey Oswald did not influence his decision to kill JFK and then escape to Communist Cuba thinking Fidel Castro would welcome him with open arms.
Almost every file has been released by government already that does not pose threat to our national security or living witness or informant and it just further proved that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone and assassinated JFK.
Give away our tactics of obtaining foreign intelligence to our enemies overseas. Expose who are spies and informants and protected witnesses are to close the case that any outside influence on Lee Harvey Oswald did not influence his decision to kill JFK and then escape to Communist Cuba thinking Fidel Castro would welcome him with open arms.
Almost every file has been released by government already that does not pose threat to our national security or living witness or informant and it just further proved that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone and assassinated JFK.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 9:24 am to dnm3305
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And we all assume that nothing will happen to those documents within that 45 day window.
Certainly possible, but the documents that haven't been released aren't a secret. We know what they are and the subject matter of each document. There are historians who would immediately know and highlight that some items are missing.
They would be risking criminal charges and a justice department led by a president willing to being those charges.
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 9:25 am
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:17 am to Capitalist
quote:
Does it really matter?
Because ALL THE EVIDENCE PROVES Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK, Officer Tippit, and almost killed Governor Connally and Edwin Walker.
Need to stop believing leftist bullshite by Oliver Stone, Mark Lane, Jim Garrison, Robert Groden, and other left-wing loonies who have made big $$$ selling movies, books, bullshite tv docu-propaganda hyping all these bullshite conspiracies to deflect blame from the proven fact that a lone communist fanatic attention seeker from New Orleans killed the President.
Get over it.
LHO killed JFK
So, Oswald fired the shot that went through JFK from behind......and Oswald fired the shot that went through the front of his head? He was in 2 places at same time?
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:25 am to Penrod
quote:Exactly. JFK was a scumbag and it will lay it bare.
My guess is that there will be no big revelations about who killed them. And the reason these files have been secret is because these huge investigations probably turned up a lot of very embarrassing information that has little to do with the crime being investigated - stuff like affairs and shady business dealings
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:28 am to Capitalist
quote:
Because ALL THE EVIDENCE PROVES Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK, Officer Tippit, and almost killed Governor Connally and Edwin Walker.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:43 am to TigerB8
Nothing entered through the front of his head.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:57 am to VoxDawg
If these files made the US government look good or at least not bad, theyd have been released long ago.
My guess is that some in the CIA made the assassination happen and the scapegoats were taken to some dark corner of the world and disposed of with no trial
My guess is that some in the CIA made the assassination happen and the scapegoats were taken to some dark corner of the world and disposed of with no trial
Posted on 3/12/25 at 3:14 am to TigerB8
Frame 313 of Zapruder Film clearly shows the bullet exited the front of JFK's head. The front of JFK's head exploding out with the bullet exiting the front of his head. That bullet then proceeded forward and hit the inside of limo windshield and fragment was found on limo floor below driver seat. Furthermore, the x-ray of JFK's skull clearly shows the entrance wound in back of head, small puncture wound that high-speed bullet makes when it hits the back of skull and all the main skull fractures originating from this puncture hole made in back of skull. The front top left lobe of his skull open wide because when the bullet ejected out of his head, all that blood, brain, and skull matter shoots out the front of his head along with bullet exiting head and then propels the head back (called the jet effect). He was looking down and towards Jackie with arms raised at moment of head shot.
FRAME 313 clearly shows the blood spray is forward from front of head.
X-Rays further prove bullet hit back of head and exited front
Photos and Film taken from across the street from Zapruder at moment of assassination clearly show nobody in grassy knoll.
YES - LHO easily fired all 3 shots that were fired in Dealy Plaza and if you understand ballistics and how a bullet travels and evidence that all 3 bullets came from direction of Texas School Book Depository, and fact that at least four witnesses saw LHO shooting from the TSBD, yes all the EVIDENCE (witness testimony, film, photos, X-Rays, location of bullet fragments, etc.) proves that 3 shots were fired by LHO from TSBD:
The first shot missed and hit the light pole and was deflected hitting the sidewalk that broke a piece concrete that hit bystander (James Tague) in the cheek.
The second shot hit JFK in upper back, exited his throat and then hit the Connally sitting diagonally forward to left and sitting lower in rumble seat.
The third shot (FRAME 313) hit the back of JFK's head and Frame 313 shows all that blood and brain debris exiting the front of his head, consistent with a bullet that hit JFK from the rear, not from the grassy knoll. And then exited the front of his head.
LHO was an Marine Sharp Shooter who could easily make over 200 of 250 shots using a bolt action rifle at over 100 yards without scope. The rifle he used had a high power scope, And rifle that was designed to kill elephants. And JFK was only about 78 yards during the final shot and LHO had plenty of time to make all three shots because we know by how many frames were recorded by Zapruder film that LHO had taken about 8.6 seconds to make the third shot after the second shot was fired (Warren Commission Report messed up the order of shots, claiming the second shot missed, when we now know based on the evidence and reaction of multiple people recorded in Zapruder Film, especially when little white hooded girl stops running alongside limo driver side and snaps head towards TSBD, when the first shot was fired and caught everyone's attention, that the first shot missed, not the second shot which hit both JFK and Connally.
FRAME 313 clearly shows the blood spray is forward from front of head.
X-Rays further prove bullet hit back of head and exited front
Photos and Film taken from across the street from Zapruder at moment of assassination clearly show nobody in grassy knoll.
YES - LHO easily fired all 3 shots that were fired in Dealy Plaza and if you understand ballistics and how a bullet travels and evidence that all 3 bullets came from direction of Texas School Book Depository, and fact that at least four witnesses saw LHO shooting from the TSBD, yes all the EVIDENCE (witness testimony, film, photos, X-Rays, location of bullet fragments, etc.) proves that 3 shots were fired by LHO from TSBD:
The first shot missed and hit the light pole and was deflected hitting the sidewalk that broke a piece concrete that hit bystander (James Tague) in the cheek.
The second shot hit JFK in upper back, exited his throat and then hit the Connally sitting diagonally forward to left and sitting lower in rumble seat.
The third shot (FRAME 313) hit the back of JFK's head and Frame 313 shows all that blood and brain debris exiting the front of his head, consistent with a bullet that hit JFK from the rear, not from the grassy knoll. And then exited the front of his head.
LHO was an Marine Sharp Shooter who could easily make over 200 of 250 shots using a bolt action rifle at over 100 yards without scope. The rifle he used had a high power scope, And rifle that was designed to kill elephants. And JFK was only about 78 yards during the final shot and LHO had plenty of time to make all three shots because we know by how many frames were recorded by Zapruder film that LHO had taken about 8.6 seconds to make the third shot after the second shot was fired (Warren Commission Report messed up the order of shots, claiming the second shot missed, when we now know based on the evidence and reaction of multiple people recorded in Zapruder Film, especially when little white hooded girl stops running alongside limo driver side and snaps head towards TSBD, when the first shot was fired and caught everyone's attention, that the first shot missed, not the second shot which hit both JFK and Connally.
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