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re: Trump's court cases: have they had chance to present their evidence in a complete fashion?

Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:01 am to
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:01 am to
Yes, trust the plan. The plan that lost his re-election, got donors to fill grifter's pockets, got someone shot and killed for no reason, got a president impeached twice. Yes, trust that plan that in two weeks something will happen.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
30286 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:17 am to
I can't lie LauraBrannigan, at least for now, I'd rather be in your shoes..

To be able to come from 4th place drooling in a basement, having never won a single state in three DNC Primaries(including your own state)..

Winning but 1 of 19 bellweather counties(losing most by double digits)..

Losing Fla and Ohio(but being the first Pres to get WH in 100 yrs doing such)..

Beating Obama 2012 by 7M, yet winning 350 fewer counties..

Pa sending out 1.8M mail-in ballots, but collecting and counting 2.5M

Sheer 4AM magic, it's almost like there were a magical CIA Hammer and Scorecard, Dominion machines with algorithms, connected to the net, and multiple nation interference..

Crazy Uncle Joe is on a monster roll right now, racking up all the hard ways, pressing, taking full odds..

Big Red..7 Out..aka The Truth..Coming Soon!
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11023 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:49 am to
The attorneys for Trump never presented the evidence because there was none. So of course they threw them out right away. It was all on conspiracy theories and stuff floating around on the Internet. Once trumps attorneys got to the court room, they knew they couldn’t lie as they would go to jail. This is why the SC shot in down in 2 seconds. Not one attorney in 60 tries could show evidence to a court that could be shown to the Supreme Court. Of course they weren’t gonna waste their time with that. Most attorneys aren’t willing to go to jail for Trump/get disbarred. I don’t understand why this is so hard for yall to understand... and spare me all the allegations BS... if any of those allegations were true their would be more evidence to prove those allegations. That shite doesn’t fly in court if you know anything about the court of law.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 7:57 am
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18136 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:50 am to
ALL will be determined "moot"
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:53 am to
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So if they find 100% proof that this whole thing was a sham, it no longer matters? In a legal sense they are unable to actually do anything?

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Basically.

By "basically" I think you meant it's basically BULLfrickINGSHIT
Posted by LSUTigerFan247
Member since Jun 2017
3580 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:56 am to
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Yes, trust the plan.


More like an insurance policy if the courts dismissed his cases, which they did.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15398 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:12 am to
Yes. The entire legal strategy of Democrats was to run out the clock.
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:14 am to
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Yes. The entire legal strategy of Democrats was to run out the clock.


Yep. And completely block access to machines and examinations of records that might actually get to the bottom of the level of fraud.

Maricopa County never turned over their machines, issuing a statement saying they'd go to jail first.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:15 am to
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The attorneys for Trump never presented the evidence because there was none. So of course they threw them out right away.


That isn't what happened, everyone had full access to the Michigan SoS database to see dead people were voting in mass.

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Not one attorney in 60 tries could show evidence to a court that could be shown to the Supreme Court.


There was evidence there just was no trial.

Not sure what you are getting at, even the federal judge in Wood's case said they directive had been given to them not to basically interfere unless it was very specific in nature.
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9246 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:18 am to
They hadn’t planned on something called Communism sweeping the nation.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:19 am to
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Not sure what you are getting at, even the federal judge in Wood's case said they directive had been given to them not to basically interfere unless it was very specific in nature.


What in the actual frick are you babbling about?
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17457 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:31 am to
I would be fine with 4 years of Biden if it led to real election reform...sadly, it ain't gonna happen
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21176 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:37 am to
The end of term limits and the electoral college gone is what's going to happen.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:38 am to
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What in the actual frick are you babbling about?


About how you mom isn't that good.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
29958 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:39 am to
Term limits for POTUS? No one else has term limits federally, that I'm aware of. But that doesn't mean they won't do it anyway just because it sounds like an evil plan.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:48 am to
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Maybe you should hire actual lawyers rather than Kraken spouting hucksters
still implying there's no evidence
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:49 am to
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I personally think it was a genius move to bait Dominion into filing a civil suit
anyone notice that dominion, despite their bluster, STILL has taken NO ONE to court?
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
5475 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:56 am to
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They probably never envisioned multiple state legislatures changing procedure and that the supreme court would refuse to hear it at all

I'm guessing you're referring to the multiple states which allowed Elector selection procedures to be changed unconstitutionally by officials OTHER than their legislatures. That SCOTUS would not hear those cases is only slightly less troubling than the fact that those States' legislatures let their authority be usurped and didn't vigorously press their cases prior to the election.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:58 am to
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still implying there's no evidence


He's in thread after thread trying to convince people America is okay.

But really what he is, he is the rapist trying to convince the rape victim it was good for them.

"Don't Run, we are you friends!!!"
- Aliens (Mars Attacks)

Its actually quite entertaining.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:03 am to
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In suits they filed seeking a TRO, one of the things the courts look at is the requesting party’s likelihood of success on the merits.

Not sure what you mean by present their evidence in a complete fashion, but they attached affidavits and exhibits to these TRO filings. The state also submitted their responses with contradictory evidence or argument discrediting the affidavits or exhibits filed by the movers.

The courts reviewed the evidence and denied the TRO. I think one may have been granted regarding preservation of evidence or voting machines
this is a really good summary. it has been said that rudy and co never claimed fraud. well, evidence of fraud was most certainly submitted.

the evidence was never weighed in and of itself. it was always weighed in terms of procedure or standing or merit. iow, do the allegations have the weight to accomplish what the plaintiffs are asking. that's why the challengers tried some of the allegations multiple times over with different language to get the evidence into a court case.

in many cases, the plaintiffs asked for a halt to counting for investigation or an audit, etc. these motions were denied due to various reasons but the allegations were NEVER ordered to be investigated. and there is no reason whatsoever to deny a motion to halt counting for investigation. no reason. it doesn't matter if the judge felt that the officials or counters followed proper state procedure. that allegation needs to be investigation and counting stopped until it has been completed in full

that's why i've been saying that the judges set the bar impossibly high when for election purposes, the bar should have been the floor. we're not talking about dog catcher. we're talking about freaking POTUS. it matters. and yes i would want the same thing if the challenges were brought by the opposition party. i want to make damn sure the person we're about to put in the chair absolutely deserves to be there.

now the left is running around saying "you lost in court" making the courts the final decision on election fraud when the judges were clear they didn't want the courts to be the final decision on election fraud. stupidity
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