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re: Trump's court cases: have they had chance to present their evidence in a complete fashion?

Posted on 1/23/21 at 4:03 pm to
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 4:03 pm to
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hey filed a lawsuit and willingly exposed themselves to the *vaunted* discovery process. Does that suggest anything to you?
bluster? they've gotten several small businesses to bend the knee that way. not a peep out of powell about backing down. nor from mypillowguy
Posted by Number1Gump
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 4:11 pm to
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They probably never envisioned multiple state legislatures changing procedure and that the supreme court would refuse to hear it at all


The courts never allowed any case to come to trial because everything they came with was just feelings and not facts! Judges really don't give a shite about how you FEEL! If you have evidence that suggests widespread fraud they would allow it. If you come with "feelings" and "he said, she said" they're like GTFO. Even Trump appointed judges. I don't know why thats so hard to understand???
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27493 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 4:19 pm to
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So if they find 100% proof that this whole thing was a sham, it no longer matters? In a legal sense they are unable to actually do anything?


This is right. Hypothetically if they present evidence of fraud in the case a DA could take that, open an investigation and prosecute anyone who conspired in the fraud, but good luck getting the justice department on board with it.

If Biden himself was implemented I imagine congress could impeach and remove him, but then it's Harris as president. Hell, they could then impeach her and install Nancy as President. I'm sure Congress will get eight on this.

Ultimately, there is no mechanism short of a military coup to remove the power of the presidency from the Democrat party.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
29958 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 4:31 pm to
Evidence necessary to meet the standard to defeat an initial motion to dismiss is intentionally set rather "light". 9 times out of 10 affadavit(s) are plenty good enough to meet the plaintiff's burden at that preliminary stage. Typically the plaintiff meets the light burden which in turn leads to the all-important discovery stage. It's a rare thing for a plaintiff to have the bulk of his evidence bagged and ready to go prior to discovery processes. In fact, more often than not the plaintiff secures his best evidence during that subsequent discovery stage.

Long story short, the judges held the plaintiffs in these matters to a cartoonish stringent standard for an initial motion to dismiss, the intentions being to derail the cases before plaintiffs could have secured much, much better evidence, as it typically goes. It was all an embarrassing and disgusting show of jurisprudential service.
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 4:33 pm
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