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re: Trump's court cases: have they had chance to present their evidence in a complete fashion?
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:32 am to boosiebadazz
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:32 am to boosiebadazz
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one of the things the courts look at is the requesting party’s likelihood of success on the merits.
True. However, I’m sure you have argued for a TRO and lost. Then won after a full trial, right? It happens all the time. Relying on the TRO is a pretty weak stance. You’re a lawyer, right? If so, you know that. Which begs the question; why would you post what you did?
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:37 am to CaTiger85
Because he asked if evidence was looked at and I answered that it was to a certain degree.
I didn’t feel the need to give him a treatise on TRO and subsequent trial procedure because (a) he didn’t ask for it and (b) effort like that is usually wasted here.
But you feel free to do so since you’re a lawyer and all
I didn’t feel the need to give him a treatise on TRO and subsequent trial procedure because (a) he didn’t ask for it and (b) effort like that is usually wasted here.
But you feel free to do so since you’re a lawyer and all
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 11:58 am
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:03 pm to boosiebadazz
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But you feel free to do so since you’re a lawyer and all
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:07 pm to RoosterCogburn585
The Founding Fathers assumed that Govt bodies would, at the end of the day, defend the Constitution when the chips were down.
That did not happen. The Constitution will only endure so long as its defending above all else.
That did not happen. The Constitution will only endure so long as its defending above all else.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:30 pm to Obtuse1
quote:bfniii BTFOquote:They have filed suit against Sidney Powell in Fed Ct. for the Dist of Columbia. Case 1:21-cv-00040
anyone notice that dominion, despite their bluster, STILL has taken NO ONE to court?
Posted on 1/21/21 at 3:36 pm to JudgeHolden
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Maybe you should hire actual lawyers rather than Kraken spouting hucksters.
Actual lawyers wouldn't sign the pleadings that were filed in those cases.
That's likely the reason why the Solicitor General of Texas didn't participate in the lawsuit the state filed against Pennsylvania and the 3 other battleground states. Ken Paxton, the Texas AG, filed it instead.
The expert report in the Texas case made assumptions that rendered it worthless, and yet it was relied on by Texas in its Motion for Leave to File in the Supreme Court. To make it even worse, that Motion misrepresented the opinion the expert had given in his report.
Actual lawyers wouldn't be part of that.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 3:41 pm to texridder
Considering the information that's been made known to the public regarding the bases for the array of litigation, I'd have signed an "upon information and belief" pleading in either all or some combination of the litany of lawsuits filed, no problem.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 3:48 pm to GhostOfFreedom
quote:The courts telling them to wait until the votes were certified had no effect on the question of latches. The latches defense applied once the election was held.
laches was the big one, after all the courts told them to wait until after votes were certified by the states. What a contrived chicken shite show.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 3:52 pm to RoosterCogburn585
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Hmmmmm....I was gonna say that's kind of a major slip up on the founding fathers part, but I guess they never envisioned a situation where every single branch of government would be in on something. Where even the candidates own party would have him under fire.
The founders never envisioned politics as a career or as a means of blatant self enrichment either. Lol!
We have politicians who have had their asses parked in the DC Brothel for 20-30-40 years.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 4:05 pm to RoosterCogburn585
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Hmmmmm....I was gonna say that's kind of a major slip up on the founding fathers part, but I guess they never envisioned a situation where every single branch of government would be in on something. Where even the candidates own party would have him under fire.
They envisioned that very thing. They assumed that men would act in their own interests and for their own political ends.
I think they would say that if all three branches of government oppose you, well, maybe that says more about you than them.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 4:46 pm to Crimson1st
quote:The posters on here who complain about the election and how they "changed the rules" need to educate themselves. They didn't illegally change the rules.
The problem here is that they didn’t. It was others and NOT the legislatures that illegally changed the rules.
Below is from the opinion of a Trump-appointed judge in Wood v Raffensperger, on the legality of the "change of the rules" made by the Georgia SOS in the settlement of the lawsuit brought against him by the Democratic Party.
The settlement changed the process for rejecting absentee ballots based on a missing or mismatched signature.
Judge Grimberg wrote:
quote:
State legislatures—such as the Georgia General Assembly—possess the authority to delegate their authority over elections to state officials in conformity with the Elections and Electors Clauses.
quote:
Recognizing that Secretary Raffensperger is the state’s chief election official, the General Assembly enacted legislation permitting him (in his official capacity) to “formulate, adopt, and promulgate such rules and regulations, consistent with law, as will be conducive to the fair, legal, and orderly conduct of primaries and elections.”
The Settlement Agreement is a manifestation of Secretary Raffensperger’s statutorily granted authority.
Virtually every state has granted its chief election official similar authority to promulgate rules and regulations for its elections.
The claims made in the Trump lawsuits about "changes in the rules" made by states SOS are a sham.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 5:03 pm to davyjones
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Considering the information that's been made known to the public regarding the bases for the array of litigation, I'd have signed an "upon information and belief" pleading in either all or some combination of the litany of lawsuits filed, no problem.
Well then, you're a fool. You sure as hell better have more reliable information than what has been "made known" to the public.
Made known by who?
Powell? Wood? Giuliani? The huckster experts like Cicchetti in the Texas case.
The allegations Trump made during his phone call to the Georgia SOS -- and threatened to bring out on 1/6?
Posted on 1/21/21 at 5:13 pm to texridder
Before I answer that I'd have to know how much litigation have you participated in as plaintiff's counsel. However without knowing the response to that inquiry I'd at least be willing to point out that there's no mandate that you have all your evidence secured at the time of filing litigation. It's assumed that the case will develop further via discovery process, depositions, requests for production of docs, and so on. At the onset of the litigation the central requirement is a certification to the court of a viable cause of action, again, minimally on information and belief. And yes I firmly believe the affidavits formed a plenty good enough information and belief basis, as well as justification for further discovery proceedings.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 5:20 pm to JudgeHolden
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Maybe you should hire actual lawyers rather than Kraken spouting hucksters.
Rudy of 2020/2021 as Trump's head lawyer, was only a shadow of what he once was; I believe it was Newt Gingrich that basically said Trump didn't have a chance as he did not have the proper lawyer staff, unlike what George Bush once possessed. Lin Wood, Rudy & Sidney did not strike fear in anyone and came off (at least in the way they were presented) as the three stooges...
Posted on 1/21/21 at 5:30 pm to Dignan
quote:he said while avoiding my thread.
Or you could accept the reality that this was a free and fair election
you got that propaganda poster board picture handy? post that. it's convincing
Posted on 1/21/21 at 5:31 pm to Obtuse1
quote:can't wait
They have filed suit against Sidney Powell in Fed Ct. for the Dist of Columbia. Case 1:21-cv-00040
Posted on 1/21/21 at 5:37 pm to CaTiger85
quote:but reasonable right? all they were asking for was a halt to the count until the allegations could be investigated. there was no reason for the judges to dismiss that. in one az case, the judge dismissed because it was felt that the election workers had followed procedure according to the letter of the law and therefore, there was no need to stop the count or investigate, which is ridiculous. you can follow the letter of the law and still count spurious ballots. the procedure wasn't the question. what was being produced by the procedure was in question.
Relying on the TRO is a pretty weak stance
there were so many others that were equally puzzling. especially one of the mi cases.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 5:38 pm to Pecker
quote:whatever tard
bfniii BTFO
MANY people are dying for dominion to make good on their word. we're daring them too. mypillowguy told them to bring it on. dominion is currently getting punked by mypillowguy.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 5:39 pm to texridder
quote:hey look who it is.
texridder
did you ever find some "links" to election fraud discussion?
freaking clown
Posted on 1/21/21 at 5:41 pm to texridder
quote:which any reasonable person can see is a joke.
The latches defense applied once the election was held
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