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re: Trump's budget cuts 100% of the National Endowment for the Arts

Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:08 pm to
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:08 pm to
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$148 million. That's enough to pay about an hours interest on the national debt
Is our debt compounded by the second?
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52888 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:09 pm to
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It will never pass. NEA and things like pbs are massive tax write offs for corporations. Just another trump lie.


If they're are huge write offs why do they need muh handouts? Are you retarded
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 10:12 pm
Posted by ellishughtiger
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Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:09 pm to
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Why can't art support itself in the private sector without taking my money via force of government?



Most of your museums are already privately funded but some depend on federal grants to stay afloat.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69309 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:11 pm to
Article I, Section 8:

quote:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations; To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years; To provide and maintain a Navy; To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;

—And To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.


If it ain't on the list, it shouldn't be funded at the federal level. States have general police power, so they can support these kinds of programs if they so choose.

Also, privatizing the NEA as a regular non-profit would not stop them from being a major tax write-off for corporations. They simply don't need our help.

If we can't cut the small stuff, we'll never cut the big stuff. Every dollar has a constituency.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 10:13 pm
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
7053 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:11 pm to
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If they're are huge write offs why go the need muh handouts? Are you retarded


Because in the realm of the wealthy, closeness to arts and philanthropy is the most valuable commodity.

It is - literally - more valuable than money.

Why do you think the Koch brothers bought Lincoln Center?

Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27251 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:11 pm to
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I have been to Broadway to see more production than you have fingers kid.


Wait, you think just because you've been to Broadway you think this qualifies as having an appreciation of the arts?

BTW I've been to more Broadway productions than you have fingers also.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4986 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:11 pm to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46095 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:12 pm to
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$148 million. That's enough to pay about an hours interest on the national debt.


You've just made a great argument for budget cuts!

Thanks.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:12 pm to
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Trump's budget cuts 100% of the National Endowment for the Arts



Good.

It should be privatized and if it can survive with private funding and donations, then bully for them.

It should not be a federal responsibility.
Posted by ellishughtiger
70118
Member since Jul 2004
21182 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:13 pm to
Lol, I bet he ate at Applebee's in Times Square as well.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27251 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:14 pm to
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There is literally zero reason for the federal government to be funding them.
.

There is literally zero reason that the taxpayers have to pay millions to protect Trump's wife in NYC because she won't move to DC either. We're blowing enough on that to fund the NEA I'm sure.

And you have to admit the vast majority of Trumpkins have absolutely no interest and are clueless about the arts.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46095 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:14 pm to
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Trump's budget cuts 100% of the National Endowment for the Arts


Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
5148 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:14 pm to
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To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

I mean, am I misunderstanding something?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:14 pm to
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That's very predictable. I mean do you see him or any of his Trumpkins having any appreciation whatsoever for the arts? The arts is as foreign to them as Nascar is to gays.


We've got people dying in the streets, gays to protect from being thrown off rooftops and we are $20 trillion in debt. Priorities man.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32982 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:14 pm to
Libtards are gonna be like.


Posted by ellishughtiger
70118
Member since Jul 2004
21182 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:15 pm to
Don't forget protecting his bastard children
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:16 pm to
So I was curious and the National Endowment for the Arts was formed during Lyndon Johnson's presidency.

That tells me a lot (and should you, too).
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69309 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:16 pm to
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There is literally zero reason that the taxpayers have to pay millions to protect Trump's wife in NYC because she won't move to DC either.


Agreed. We shouldn't be paying for EITHER of them

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And you have to admit the vast majority of Trumpkins have absolutely no interest and are clueless about the arts.


False. This is a stereotype that simply isn't true. Most still like going to art museums, local plays, and seeing movies, AND paying the ticket price to do so. They just don't see why the federal government is needed to pay for these things.

I for one, love the arts. I'm a musician, my brother's a musician. My wife is a theater bug who used to work in the movie industry. Heck, I sit on the LSU Strategic Planning Council's Art and Culture subcommittee. There is ZERO reason for the federal government to be funding things that could just as easily be supported privately.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 10:18 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69309 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:18 pm to
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I mean, am I misunderstanding something?


Yes. That passage is authorizing Congress to issue patents and copyrights, not to just outright purchase art.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 10:19 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:19 pm to
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There is literally zero reason that the taxpayers have to pay millions to protect Trump's wife in NYC because she won't move to DC either.


Did you say the same shite about Michelle Obama's expensive as frick vacations abroad that served no purpose at all to american taxpayers?

Beisdes, this is only temporary as Melania will be moving to the White House in the summer after Barron finishes the school year in NYC.
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