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re: Trump window to end the war is over he will either have to commit or walk away
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:04 am to RaoulDuke504
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:04 am to RaoulDuke504
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Cutting off US intelligence would be devastating to Ukraine
Now that would be devastating. They could not even operate himars, they could not find any drone targets. I like the idea, I like it alot.
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:08 am to trinidadtiger
Cutting off US intelligence would be devastating to Ukraine
And despite the fact that Zelensky has firmly sat The President of the United States in the cuck chair, he still keeps sending it.
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Now that would be devastating. They could not even operate himars, they could not find any drone targets. I like the idea, I like it alot.
And despite the fact that Zelensky has firmly sat The President of the United States in the cuck chair, he still keeps sending it.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:08 am to NC_Tigah
I just dont understand the "Russia wont negotiate". They have been quite clear and their objectives were reasonable.
zelensky wants:
all territories and Crimea back
he wants some "peacekeeping forces" ie nato by another name
Russia to pay reparations
membership in NATO
There is no reason to meet. And this nonsense about a ceasefire, why so deliveries of more western weapons can arrive?
zelensky, like hamas can end the wars, but then their money stream and fame would end, whats a few hundred dead a day when that is at risk?
zelensky wants:
all territories and Crimea back
he wants some "peacekeeping forces" ie nato by another name
Russia to pay reparations
membership in NATO
There is no reason to meet. And this nonsense about a ceasefire, why so deliveries of more western weapons can arrive?
zelensky, like hamas can end the wars, but then their money stream and fame would end, whats a few hundred dead a day when that is at risk?
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:09 am to RaoulDuke504
The war ends the minute the United States quits propping up the kleptocratic midget.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:10 am to trinidadtiger
They would still be able to operate them in some capacity but not as effective. HIMARS can be targeted using gps coordinates. Essentially fly an fpv drone and locate a target and relay those longitude and latitude coordinates to the himars. Strikes inside Russia would stop but they would still be able to hit frontline troops and staging areas.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:30 am to lotik
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His legacy will be how he failed to end the wars on day one like he promised his voters.
Yeah, that will be his legacy. You got him now.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:35 am to LARancher1991
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and do what he needs to do to cripple Russias economy
China and India are buying up Russian oil. I don’t know how much leverage Trump will have to do this.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:37 am to lotik
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His legacy will be how he failed to end the wars on day one like he promised his voters.
His legacy will be worrying about America and spotlighting American DC fraud.
It will be a stain if people don’t go to jail
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:41 am to trinidadtiger
quote:Zelensky wants the ceasefire while Ukrainian troops still occupy Russian Territory. If he can get that, it could help with negotiating leverage. But given how badly he misplayed his hand in the Feb Oval Office fiasco, I don't see this thing working for him.
And this nonsense about a ceasefire, why so deliveries of more western weapons can arrive?
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:42 am to RaoulDuke504
It’s been a very long Day One.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:45 am to geauxtigs99
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Trump got played and the bluffing caught up to him.
State diplomacy 101 - diplomacy is lost when you quit. That’s it - you stay at it you get concessions and you take loses but you keep going to the table. Trump has lost nothing, the man is at least trying - the biggest threat to diplomacy is not allowing the President to control the message for our Country. The politics of D’s and R’s in the US threaten any peace plan just as much as any other foreign actor.
This is the truth. We know this is the truth because the left, rino's and the EU one world government scum got their toady zelensky to throw a fit in the white house at the first WH meeting with President Trump to blow up any chance for peace. Anything that happened from that point on is on the tds crowd and their allies.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:50 am to geoag58
I sty off of here and social media it’s it’s amazing how none of this affects my daily life - it’s all theatre - go take a walk and unplug - life is very good and none of this matters
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:51 am to udtiger
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He can and will walk away. He is not about to have his legacy be this war.
Thune, Graham, McConnell, etc will kill the spending bill in the senate without continued support for Ukraine IMO.
That’s the real leverage point and why that bill didn’t fly through the senate: it was never about spending cuts, it was about Ukraine because they launder that money to fund globalist initiatives and pay off politicians in the US.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:58 am to tide06
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That’s the real leverage point and why that bill didn’t fly through the senate: it was never about spending cuts, it was about Ukraine because they launder that money to fund globalist initiatives and pay off politicians in the US.
Well, if he does that, he'll lose me and a lot of others.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:01 pm to RaoulDuke504
He got played? Duh, they played themselves. Now let them eat Nukes. I don't care anymore because I don't support terrorist.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:12 pm to udtiger
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Well, if he does that, he'll lose me and a lot of others.
Trump runs a coalition party with all the permanent bureaucracy unanimously opposed to his agenda along with 85% of his “own” party on issues like this.
The presidency isn’t a totalitarian position, he’s simply not going to get everything he wants regardless of how badly he and we would like to see it happen.
Would you rather have the spending bill + DOGE cuts or end the Ukrainian conflict?
There likely isn’t a path to both.
Short of signing a mineral rights deal with Russia, cutting funding to Ukraine and likely ending any chance of further cooperation with a passive aggressive GOPe Congress for the next 3.5 years there might not be any chance at peace period and the entire rest of his platform outside of EOs would be dead.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:35 pm to RaoulDuke504
Cool, so walk away and let them terrorize eachother
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:36 pm to LSUnation78
Hopefully both these shite countries bleed the frick out.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 1:12 pm to RaoulDuke504
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Trump got played and the bluffing caught up to him.
Do people ever get tired of being totally wrong about this? These hot takes never age well.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 1:47 pm to Hater Bait
The US imports millions of barrels of oil/petro products monthly from India......wonder if they label it "organic not made from russian oil" 
Europe is buying millions of barrels and btus through diverters as well.
The india equiv of secretary of state said "the oil is less expensive than the world market, if the US will pay the difference we will be happy to buy somewhere else, in the meantime we have to look out for Indian citizens......and I would hope the US would do the same for theirs".
Booommmmm! He is exactly correct. unfortunately the MIC not the US govt makes our decisions.
Europe is buying millions of barrels and btus through diverters as well.
The india equiv of secretary of state said "the oil is less expensive than the world market, if the US will pay the difference we will be happy to buy somewhere else, in the meantime we have to look out for Indian citizens......and I would hope the US would do the same for theirs".
Booommmmm! He is exactly correct. unfortunately the MIC not the US govt makes our decisions.
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