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re: Trump will have to explain what Guliani said.

Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:09 pm to
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:09 pm to
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Mueller has nothing to do with this story...never has, never will.


Are you ignorant? Without mueller recommending the raid on Cohen, none of this happens.
Posted by WillieNelsonsDoobie
Bogata
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:10 pm to
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You are one of the dumbest posters on here congrats




Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:11 pm to
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Except that he recommended the raid on cohen’s Office


Didn't sign a warrant, didn't apply for a warrant, recognized anything dealing with Michael Cohen's business dealing were outside the purview of his investigation as defined by Rosenstein and passed along information to SDNY. We don't know what information was passed to them.
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:11 pm to
RumpRoast Snowflake.......... eat a Stormy Daniels’ nothingburger
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68331 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:12 pm to
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Didn't sign a warrant, didn't apply for a warrant, recognized anything dealing with Michael Cohen's business dealing were outside the purview of his investigation as defined by Rosenstein and passed along information to SDNY. We don't know what information was passed to them.


So, you’re admitting that what you said was false? Obviously Mueller is a part of this story
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:13 pm to
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He's busy proving ya boy is a fricking Russian plant...he's not worried about affairs with porn stars. Mueller has nothing to do with this story...never has, never will.


I reiterate. Damn you people are stupid. If Cohen HAD paid that $130K and not been reimbursed by Trump that COULD be a violation of the law, which I assure you Mueller is concerned about.

Russian "collusion" wouldn't even be a fricking crime anyway. If you weren't stupid, you would know that Mueller is actually looking at is to see if Russians or anyone else broke the law and then if anyone in the Trump campaign conspired with them to do so.

If Mueller didn't look into the $130K to see if it was a campaign finance violation or not, he isn't doing his job.

Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7684 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:13 pm to
if trump can lie, why can't his lawyers?

rudy, rudy, rudy, rudy!!!

winning! winning! winning!!

rudy is gonna show pics of don's huge dick!!
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1679 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:14 pm to
Nah nothing at all. Other than Mueller being on this witch hunt to begin with, interrogating anybody and everybody trumps ever talked to, and grasping at straws bc he doesn’t have shite, so instead, he referred Cohen to the SDNY for investigation so they could look into Stormys “payment”

If you think this had nothing to do with Mueller, you’re full of shite.

And if you think that this doesn’t have anything to do with the fact that Cohen was suing buzzfeed and Fusion gps -bc he knows how they came up with a “Michael Cohen” in Prague story (hint: by ILLEGALLY searching the NSA’s database) It’s no different that anybody else they’ve tried to destroy- if they can drown you in legal bills and ruin you financially, they’re content.

If you can’t see it, then you’re too stupid to have a discussion with.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:14 pm to
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Didn't sign a warrant, didn't apply for a warrant, recognized anything dealing with Michael Cohen's business dealing were outside the purview of his investigation as defined by Rosenstein and passed along information to SDNY. We don't know what information was passed to them.
Didn't rosenstein direct mueller to legally address ANY issues that come up during the investigation, even if not pertinent to russia?
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:16 pm to
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Didn't rosenstein direct mueller to legally address ANY issues that come up during the investigation, even if not pertinent to russia?


This is correct. So certainly if a possible campaign finance violation was found Mueller would be authorized to investigate that.

Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:19 pm to
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It's the same here. There was no contradiction here. Why don't you, word for word, fact by fact, lay it out. You will see how it's not contradiction.
Associated Press Headline:
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Rudy Giuliani contradicts Trump, says the president knew about Michael Cohen’s $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels and reimbursed Cohen for it


Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1679 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:19 pm to
If Mueller has cohens records, then thats gonna be a problem. That would mean mueller referred Cohen to sdny, so that sdny could raid his property, and then funnel info back to him,- since the Cohen stuff was out of the “scope of the investigation” for mueller.



Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:20 pm to
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texridder



You're an ignorant frick.

Not knowing a payment was made at the time it was made =/= knowing a payment was made at any point ever.

Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:21 pm to
Reminder that Hastert was convicted of trying to hide hush money through structured payments to his victims....
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:21 pm to
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So, you’re admitting that what you said was false? Obviously Mueller is a part of this story


Stormy Daniels broke her NDA and hired Michael Avenatti to defend her and go after Trump. Daniels and Avenatti have been in court and part of their argument concerns this $130k. They are trying to depose POTUS as part of this case. Michael Cohen, as the one guy who signed the NDA with Daniels, denied Trump knew anything about the payment. Trump, when asked, also said he knew nothing about the payment. Guiliani just blew their bullshite out of the water tonight...Trump's own fricking attorney just fricked up his client in another case.

So what does any of that have to do with Mueller?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:22 pm to
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Who gives a shite? Everybody knows Trump's a compulsive liar and you're either cool with it or you laugh at it.




I think people are just used to politicians being lying sacks of shite.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:23 pm to
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Reminder that Hastert was convicted of trying to hide hush money through structured payments to his victims....


Reminder, Stormy Daniels wasn't a victim.

But nice attempt at comparing Trump to a sex offender.
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1679 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:24 pm to
YOu really are this stupid aren’t you?


There would have been NO RAID AND THEREFORE NO RECORDS SEIZED if not for Mueller referring him to SDNY.

Stormy Daniels lawsuit is not what prompted the raid that obtained the records, you ignorant frick.

MUELLER DID.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:24 pm to
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I reiterate. Damn you people are stupid.


Aren't you the guy who tried to insinuate that you being some sort of fricking Army investigator meant something? As if it lent you credibility?

Yeah. You were in the Army, dude. Proof positive you are far from the sharpest tool in the shed. I mean, do you really think the way you're trying to twist this argument is in any way convincing, much less opaque? You aren't as smart as you think you are, buckaroo.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110895 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:25 pm to
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Reminder that Hastert was convicted of trying to hide hush money through structured payments to his victims....


I'm guessing the young boys aspect there (that you seem to have passed over), is not exactly an irrelevant distinction between this scenario.
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