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re: Trump" We may designate Mexican Cartels as foreign terrorist orgainizations"
Posted on 3/12/19 at 12:33 pm to teke184
Posted on 3/12/19 at 12:33 pm to teke184
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This mean we can designate Mexico as state sponsors of terrorism?
they've been in civil war for years trying to fight the cartels
so, not a no, but a frick no
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 12:34 pm to DeafJam73
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True. Walls will slow down illegal immigration, but it can’t stop airlines, boats and paid off agents from smuggling drugs and cartel members.
I agree, it will help with undocumented immigrants but as far as asylum seekers, drugs etc it would be a gross waste of resources. It is a multifaceted issue that needs multifaceted solutions, and improved barriers are a part of that...but this notion that 'the wall' is going to magically save the day is a fallacy and one that Trump is continuously pushing for political points/votes
Posted on 3/12/19 at 12:36 pm to bamarep
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We may designate Mexican Cartels as foreign terrorist orgainizations
About 34 years too late. This should have been done on February 9, 1985.
This post was edited on 3/12/19 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 3/12/19 at 12:43 pm to mb_
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This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:03 pm to tide06
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We aren’t going to send tanks into Mexico to fight land battles with these animals.
Where did I suggest they would?
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As soon as they are designated terrorist organizations their financial assets can be seized and anyone helping them to launder money is off to gitmo.
A lot of big banks and powerful people are puckering at the thought of their dirty deals having the full power of the patriot act turned loose on them.
This sounds good and all but how much more overreach are you wanting to give the government to carry out these actions? There is of course the age-old issue of cash to deal with too
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:45 pm to bamarep
When is he going to call the CIA a terrorist organization, or more specifically, a narco-terrorist organization?
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:50 pm to bamarep
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How much fun will it be to watch Democrats actually defend brutal drug kingpins.
Again?
They are doing it already....
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
Sometimes Trump hits the nail on the head
I support this 1,000%
I support this 1,000%
Posted on 3/12/19 at 2:12 pm to TOKEN
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I support this 1,000%
Will you support it 1,000% when a new wave of illegals surge the border claiming asylum from terrorism and terrorist organizations in their cities?
No thanks.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 2:17 pm to UPT
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Will you support it 1,000% when a new wave of illegals surge the border claiming asylum from terrorism and terrorist organizations in their cities?
That is already happening
Posted on 3/12/19 at 2:19 pm to DeafJam73
Seems like this opens the door to refugee status.
Any gubment action creates unwanted results.
Any gubment action creates unwanted results.
This post was edited on 3/12/19 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 3/12/19 at 2:28 pm to RogerTheShrubber
We look at the cartels as merely drug operations. That's the problem to a degree. They're individual fiefdoms that, much like feudal governments, operate as a quasi-governmental entity within their territorial boundaries. With all of their money, these organizations become legitimized in many areas of Mexico through laundering their money into legitimate or semi-legitimate enterprises, which in turn gives them the support of people who otherwise might despise them. I think Trump is doing the right thing here. If the Mexican cartels are to ever be defeated, Mexico has to do it, and sanctions on our Southern neighbor may be the very fear they need to clean up their country.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 2:29 pm to bamarep
Libs heads will explode when Trump achieves world peace
Posted on 3/12/19 at 2:34 pm to SCLibertarian
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them. I think Trump is doing the right thing here. If the Mexican cartels are to ever be defeated, Mexico has to do it, and sanctions on our Southern neighbor may be the very fear they need to clean up their country.
I believe as long as there is a market in the USA for drugs, hookers, illegals... Cartels will boom regardless of sanctions. We might just make it more dangerous.
I'm extremely skeptical of heavy handed tactics because the past has shown it creates a more lucrative opportunity and more violence. Just basic economics.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 2:55 pm to bamarep
And here we go. I posted in one of the many, many wall threads that if we really do have a national security issue at our Southern border, then doesn't it actually make sense to just go ahead and invade Mexico? Take the fight to them just like we are doing in the Middle East?
Labeling the cartels as terrorists seems to be the first step. Probably not legal for Trump to just invade, though, since I really don't think this would be covered by the AUMF.
Labeling the cartels as terrorists seems to be the first step. Probably not legal for Trump to just invade, though, since I really don't think this would be covered by the AUMF.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 4:15 pm to bamarep
Someone about to get indicted?
Posted on 3/12/19 at 4:16 pm to bamarep
Seize.
Their.
Assets.
Their.
Assets.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 4:27 pm to SCLibertarian
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We look at the cartels as merely drug operations. That's the problem to a degree. They're individual fiefdoms that, much like feudal governments, operate as a quasi-governmental entity within their territorial boundaries. With all of their money, these organizations become legitimized in many areas of Mexico through laundering their money into legitimate or semi-legitimate enterprises, which in turn gives them the support of people who otherwise might despise them. I think Trump is doing the right thing here. If the Mexican cartels are to ever be defeated, Mexico has to do it, and sanctions on our Southern neighbor may be the very fear they need to clean up their country.
Yea..but can they? And would tightening the screws with sanctions have an adverse impact in terms of corruption etc.. I don't really see anyway it can happen without a pretty strong interaction by the US
Posted on 3/12/19 at 4:32 pm to bamarep
Sounds like just another terrible, interventionist idea...to deal with a black market crime problem.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 4:32 pm to bamarep
Excellent
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