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re: Trump wants to make new law re: fake news media
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:43 am to Tridentds
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:43 am to Tridentds
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If you look at Google there are numerous daily stories that are entirely negative toward Trump. C take a second look at most are opinion pieces and often cite anonymous sources or insiders to give their opinion some element of credibility.
MSNBC:
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:45 am to SallysHuman
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I could get behind a law that makes news articles sourced anonymously have a disclaimer at the top of the article that states something to the effect of: "Warning: The allegations contained in this article cannot be independently verified." Maybe a rating system? "Sources Say" is not cutting it in any longer.
I agree with this. The prevalence of anonymous sourcing has most certainly increased in recent decades with 24/7 news cycle and has degraded public trust.
We should never censor (outside of obvious inappropriate content) but showing a warning label on stories with unverified sources would alter the way news is consumed for the better IMO.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:51 am to Proximo
NYTvs Sullivan is a reasonable standard for public figures, especially those in politics. It’s better to err on the side of a free press.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:52 am to Saint Alfonzo
Yes, lies are free speech. Defamation is too especially if it is a public figure. Public figures can't have it just their way. They use the press for their purposes to aggrandize themselves. But they get outdone when someone publishes spurious things about them that casts them in a bad light.
The cure for bad free speech, is more free speech
The cure for bad free speech, is more free speech
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:53 am to Proximo
Imagine Trump calling someone else a liar
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:58 am to VoxDawg
All those were legitimate topics for discussion and government had no business intervening. You'll get no argument from me on free speech. I'm an absolutist...something that Democrats and a large swath of MAGA is not. In that respect they agree.
If you are a public figure, expect lies and defamation. You signed up for it, you knew the environment.
If you are a public figure, expect lies and defamation. You signed up for it, you knew the environment.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:12 am to KiwiHead
I'd be willing to bet that a full repeal of the portions of the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act that Obama had Congress sneak into the 2013 NDAA bill would go a long way to solving a number of our media woes.
Undo the legalization of propaganda on American airwaves and watch the "fake news" dry up and blow away.
Undo the legalization of propaganda on American airwaves and watch the "fake news" dry up and blow away.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:15 am to VoxDawg
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Then Congressional committees use the reporting as a basis to open investigations with unlimited taxpayer resources to seek to uncover crimes.
It's circular reporting, and what Drunk Grandma Pelosi referred to as "the wrap up smear".
It's scary and sad that she says this so causally, and it's just 'politics', and they even have a name for it.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:17 am to Proximo
It was a 9-0 decision. Idk if the SCOTUS is revisiting that anytime soon.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:21 am to KiwiHead
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So much for being an advocate of free speech
So you were a champion for Alex Jones when his fortune was raided and forced to sell his company due to defamatory comments? I certainly hope so.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:33 am to KiwiHead
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If Trump isn't grown up enough to deal with the barrage of negative info that comes at him, then maybe he should have stayed in the private sector.
What an ignorant statement. Name someone who’s dealt with a greater “barrage of negative info”? And I’d say becoming President again is definitely “dealing with it”. 
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:35 am to Proximo
Everyone should have a problem with the government determining what is truth. Y'all are in favor of this today, but last year it would have caused a riot.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:43 am to VoxDawg
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I'd be willing to bet that a full repeal of the portions of the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act that Obama had Congress sneak into the 2013 NDAA bill would go a long way to solving a number of our media woes.
Yep!
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:47 am to Asharad
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Everyone should have a problem with the government determining what is truth.
Agreed.
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Y'all are in favor of this today, but last year it would have caused a riot.
I think most are in favor of disclaimers, not censorship. Disclaimers are common and would be well used in this context. Hell, unless something has changed in the past month, there are still .gov disclaimer links on twitter/x posts and youtube videos that discuss covid.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:55 am to Midget Death Squad
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So you were a champion for Alex Jones when his fortune was raided and forced to sell his company due to defamatory comments? I certainly hope so.
Nah, progressives don't support free speech for everyone.
Some are more equal than others.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:04 am to Proximo
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:04 am to KiwiHead
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So much for being an advocate of free speech. Fake news and "dishonest" books and articles are free speech, too.
There is a difference is free speech and defamation. Free speech allows someone to say that they thing someone is a nitwit, but you cant make specific accusations without proof or facts.
But you understand this you just need to clutch your pearls and sky scream.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:06 am to Proximo
Who determines what is "fake news"?
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:06 am to Proximo
Just reinstate the Smith-Mundt Act and that will help a lot of it.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:08 am to FooManChoo
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So much for being an advocate of free speech. Fake news and "dishonest" books and articles are free speech, too.
I guess you believe you have the right to yell fire in a crowded building just for the hell ot it.
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