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re: Trump tweets a message to the Mullahs
Posted on 1/4/20 at 10:46 pm to the808bass
Posted on 1/4/20 at 10:46 pm to the808bass
quote:Bass, this sort of comment is one of the primary reasons that it is so-painfully-difficult to have a reasoned conversation with you guys. You are CONSTANTLY putting words into the mouths of those with whom you disagree ... words that they NEVER said.
You’re pretending that this guy may be an ok dude
Absolutely NO ONE has said or even implied that QS was some sort of bodhisattva. He was a bad actor, and everyone knows this.
Good actor or bad actor, international law frowns upon the targeted killing of the leadership of foreign nations with whom one is not formally at war. Personally, I think this is one that we can justify
But that is a COMPLETELY different discussion than one in which you REPEATEDLY respond to arguments that NO ONE is making, while INSISTING that they indeed did so.
This post was edited on 1/4/20 at 10:50 pm
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 10:47 pm to bamarep
Very strong message.
Iran needs to realize that this is not cowardly, appeasing Obama they're dealing with here.
Iran needs to realize that this is not cowardly, appeasing Obama they're dealing with here.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 10:49 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
But that is a COMPLETELY different discussion than one in which you REPEATEDLY respond to arguments that NO ONE is making, while INSISTING that they indeed did so.
Aub said we were just supposed to take the word of the intelligence services on this guy. I took that to mean that there’s not enough out there to condemn the guy. I think that’s a stupid and dishonest take.
Your splitting of hairs and finding some sort of cognitive dissonance when there isn’t one is why you’re a fricktard.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 10:59 pm to the808bass
Personal attacks aside, you continue to do EXACTLY the same thing.
Aub is perhaps skeptical of the intelligence upon which Trump relied in asserting that QS was working on new and imminent attacks. It was only a few days ago that the majority here was skeptical of the intelligence community. It is a reasonable discussion to have.
But not REMOTELY the same discussion as claiming that Aub advocated a position to the effect that QS was a great guy. He never said that. If asked, I’ve no doubt that he would agree that QS was a bad actor.
This is not the rhetorical splitting of hairs. It is intellectually-dishonest argument.
It is simply not possible to have a civilized discussion with someone who continuously insists that you have said things you never said and taken positions that you have never taken.
Aub is perhaps skeptical of the intelligence upon which Trump relied in asserting that QS was working on new and imminent attacks. It was only a few days ago that the majority here was skeptical of the intelligence community. It is a reasonable discussion to have.
But not REMOTELY the same discussion as claiming that Aub advocated a position to the effect that QS was a great guy. He never said that. If asked, I’ve no doubt that he would agree that QS was a bad actor.
This is not the rhetorical splitting of hairs. It is intellectually-dishonest argument.
It is simply not possible to have a civilized discussion with someone who continuously insists that you have said things you never said and taken positions that you have never taken.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 11:03 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Aub is perhaps skeptical of the intelligence upon which Trump relied in asserting that QS was working on new and imminent attacks. It was only a few days ago that the majority here was skeptical of the intelligence community. It is a reasonable discussion to have.
Then he should be more precise in his language. He didn’t say that.
quote:
If asked, I’ve no doubt that he would agree that QS was a bad actor.
I kinda think he might not.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 11:09 pm to the808bass
quote:And that too is a reasonable topic for discussion.
Aub said we were just supposed to take the word of the intelligence services on this guy. I took that to mean that there’s not enough out there to condemn the guy. I think that’s a stupid and dishonest take.
Again, I think we can probably justify it, but the simple fact is that we committed a major prima-facie breach of international norms, and we have NOT yet provided the evidence supporting our actions. I suspect that we WILL be provided that evidence in the coming days, and I think it is a bit early to be screaming that it is not yet public.
Again, however, that is a completely different discussion.
Bedtime for me. Have a good night.
This post was edited on 1/4/20 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 1/5/20 at 12:12 am to the808bass
Faggie Hank wants to take the side of the terrorist because he is a terrorist. He is liberal prog scum
Posted on 1/5/20 at 12:45 am to AggieHank86
Hank, never question the war machine.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 12:48 am to Redleg Guy
Stop hard legging Fank, she doesn’t need your liberal snail trail
Posted on 1/5/20 at 1:33 am to Bourre
I’ve always wanted to see our nukes in action, the Middle East needs to be turned back into sand. I voted for Trump because he’s not afraid to use them like the past pussy presidents.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 4:58 am to OleWar
quote:
quote:
the Iranian culture
So we are going to commit war crimes now?
Yeah I’m all with him but I didn’t like that part to be honest. Keep it to hitting them militarily and economically.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 5:27 am to Elleshoe
I'd stay away from the line of thinking apparently in use with OleWar. That being, I'm sure, the overly simplified thought that we'd actually engage civilian targets "just because". There's gonna be just a tad more to it than that.
Rather, what this is more likely referring to is perhaps airports...that could harm Iranian culture yet still have strategic military value. Power grid....that could affect Iranian culture yet still have strategic military value. Perhaps universities that double as research institutes for nefarious activities. Same story.
Etc etc
Rather, what this is more likely referring to is perhaps airports...that could harm Iranian culture yet still have strategic military value. Power grid....that could affect Iranian culture yet still have strategic military value. Perhaps universities that double as research institutes for nefarious activities. Same story.
Etc etc
Posted on 1/5/20 at 7:21 am to Redleg Guy
quote:
If Iran does attack US assets, it will surely constitute an act of war.
Fixed it for you, pussy
This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 7:22 am
Posted on 1/5/20 at 7:25 am to GeorgeTheGreek
quote:
The war in Iraq will be over real quick once we oust Saddam from Iraq too.
The war with Iraq was over real quick. The US just decided to stay and nation build as opposed taking what we wanted and getting the frick out
Posted on 1/5/20 at 7:42 am to Godfather1
I see nothing wrong with hitting all 52
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