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re: Trump: Transgenders will not be accepted or allowed in military in any capacity

Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:55 am to
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:55 am to
This might actually piss off 4chan...they love them some trannies
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:56 am to
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, if someone can pass all mental and physical requirements for the military



That's the point, thinking you were born the wrong gender means you can not pass the mental requirements.


Imagine if you walked into a recruiting station and told the recruiter that you thought you should have been born with 3 arms instead of 2 and would like to join the military..........

Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14833 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:57 am to
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Indians (feather, not dot) served


Thanks for that remarkable distinction
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20757 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:57 am to
What will we do without these 5-10 soldiers?!?!?!
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89587 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:58 am to
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On one hand, if someone can pass all mental and physical requirements for the military


You should have seen the training on this. It was like a parody of a satire of a parody. Basically, if they have the diagnosis and have begun the transition, they are to meet the standards of the destination gender - unless they can't.

I had hoped that this would backfire on the liberals when folks realized there are drastically different standards for males and females now. This is NOT done for readiness. This is done to allow for arbitrary "sufficient" levels of female soldiers for the social experiment.

Females largely don't belong in uniform. But, if we're going to do that, we should go back to the old WAC/WAVE/WAF era and have them in a segregated service. And they certainly don't belong in combat.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 9:03 am
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:58 am to
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That's the point, thinking you were born the wrong gender means you can not pass the mental requirements.



I guess. I don't know the specific mental requirements.

What is the criteria for mental defects that no longer makes one fit to serve?
Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
12486 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:00 am to
So in short, military= arse whippin, trangender=arse frickin.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:00 am to
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Trump: Transgenders will not be accepted or allowed in military in any capacity


Good. Allowing them to serve could serve no useful purpose whatsoever.
Posted by LSUcjb318
Member since Jul 2008
2364 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:02 am to

Transgender individuals that want to serve have way more courage than someone who dodged the draft multiple times.

Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14833 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:02 am to
Well, now we have a new draft dodging strategy
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:03 am to
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Females largely don't belong in uniform. But, if we're going to do that, we should go back to the old WAC/WAVE/WAF era and have them in a segregated service. And they certainly don't belong in combat.


Eh, that's some bullshite.

80% of military members are in rolls that can easily be filled by women.

A military base, for example, is nothing but a small city and requires all the employees a city does. Those jobs can be done by women , sometimes even better than men can do them.

Now, if you're talking about combat roles, or specific special force slots, well that's another matter. But just the blanket statement that women don't belong in the military is incorrect.
Posted by jwall3
Member since Jun 2008
3029 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:04 am to
This weeks headline:
President hates women, and any man that wants to be a woman.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:05 am to
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What is the criteria for mental defects that no longer makes one fit to serve?



They're pretty low, to be honest. But someone who is bipolar, or something like that is going to be ousted on a medical. Same principle here.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89587 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:07 am to
quote:

80% of military members are in rolls that can easily be filled by women.


Then let men in those roles train to the female APFT standard.

quote:

Those jobs can be done by women , sometimes even better than men can do them.


To a certain degree, this is true. I've been complimentary of female troops with whom I've served here and in other places. However, we're largely dealing with our last 20 years experience. Mostly, we do the killing and we could have civilians doing a lot of these jobs, too.

But, a soldier is supposed to be a warfighter when the shite hits the fan. Mixed or female-only units always underperform all male units in combat. Period.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:09 am to
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Only white men in govt because they are th only ones competent enough to govern?


Is this really what you believe?

Now those thousands of trans-gendered soldiers will...wait...how many are there?
Posted by BamaFan365
Member since Sep 2011
2347 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:12 am to
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So when a dude becomes a chick and murders all the female Pt standards and gets promoted over the other women they'll raise hell



I've never understood the different pt standards for males and females. I thought we are equal. The military should have one set of standards. Pass them or move along.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45810 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:15 am to
I really couldn't care less about someone's sexual orientation in the military, but... interference in the primary mission of the military needs to stay in check.

Tax dollars should not be wasted dealing with transitioning, nor on needless diversity sensitivity training. It's a distraction and it weakens the overall efficiency.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77328 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:16 am to
The biggest take out of this is what everyone who is honest knows is that many transgenders will join the military in order for the government to pay for their transition surgeries and many will demand this to take place while still serving and eating up large portions of their time recooperating and not actually participating in "active duty"...

If they truly wish to serve then sign a waiver stating they will not seek government assistance for any transition procedures...
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:16 am to
I don't care about this. If our military is better for it, cool.

But, it still boggles my mind how he can flipflop on so many issues and get no blow back from his base.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30616 posts
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:20 am to


Good for Trump and America.
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