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Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:56 am to Salmon
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, if someone can pass all mental and physical requirements for the military
That's the point, thinking you were born the wrong gender means you can not pass the mental requirements.
Imagine if you walked into a recruiting station and told the recruiter that you thought you should have been born with 3 arms instead of 2 and would like to join the military..........
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:57 am to Ace Midnight
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Indians (feather, not dot) served
Thanks for that remarkable distinction
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:57 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
What will we do without these 5-10 soldiers?!?!?!
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:58 am to Salmon
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On one hand, if someone can pass all mental and physical requirements for the military
You should have seen the training on this. It was like a parody of a satire of a parody. Basically, if they have the diagnosis and have begun the transition, they are to meet the standards of the destination gender - unless they can't.
I had hoped that this would backfire on the liberals when folks realized there are drastically different standards for males and females now. This is NOT done for readiness. This is done to allow for arbitrary "sufficient" levels of female soldiers for the social experiment.
Females largely don't belong in uniform. But, if we're going to do that, we should go back to the old WAC/WAVE/WAF era and have them in a segregated service. And they certainly don't belong in combat.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 9:03 am
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:58 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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That's the point, thinking you were born the wrong gender means you can not pass the mental requirements.
I guess. I don't know the specific mental requirements.
What is the criteria for mental defects that no longer makes one fit to serve?
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:00 am to Salmon
So in short, military= arse whippin, trangender=arse frickin.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:00 am to volfan30
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Trump: Transgenders will not be accepted or allowed in military in any capacity
Good. Allowing them to serve could serve no useful purpose whatsoever.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:02 am to volfan30
Transgender individuals that want to serve have way more courage than someone who dodged the draft multiple times.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:02 am to SSpaniel
Well, now we have a new draft dodging strategy
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:03 am to Ace Midnight
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Females largely don't belong in uniform. But, if we're going to do that, we should go back to the old WAC/WAVE/WAF era and have them in a segregated service. And they certainly don't belong in combat.
Eh, that's some bullshite.
80% of military members are in rolls that can easily be filled by women.
A military base, for example, is nothing but a small city and requires all the employees a city does. Those jobs can be done by women , sometimes even better than men can do them.
Now, if you're talking about combat roles, or specific special force slots, well that's another matter. But just the blanket statement that women don't belong in the military is incorrect.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:04 am to GetCocky11
This weeks headline:
President hates women, and any man that wants to be a woman.
President hates women, and any man that wants to be a woman.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:05 am to Salmon
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What is the criteria for mental defects that no longer makes one fit to serve?
They're pretty low, to be honest. But someone who is bipolar, or something like that is going to be ousted on a medical. Same principle here.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:07 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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80% of military members are in rolls that can easily be filled by women.
Then let men in those roles train to the female APFT standard.
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Those jobs can be done by women , sometimes even better than men can do them.
To a certain degree, this is true. I've been complimentary of female troops with whom I've served here and in other places. However, we're largely dealing with our last 20 years experience. Mostly, we do the killing and we could have civilians doing a lot of these jobs, too.
But, a soldier is supposed to be a warfighter when the shite hits the fan. Mixed or female-only units always underperform all male units in combat. Period.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:09 am to StrongSafety
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Only white men in govt because they are th only ones competent enough to govern?
Is this really what you believe?
Now those thousands of trans-gendered soldiers will...wait...how many are there?
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:12 am to FiddleHead
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So when a dude becomes a chick and murders all the female Pt standards and gets promoted over the other women they'll raise hell
I've never understood the different pt standards for males and females. I thought we are equal. The military should have one set of standards. Pass them or move along.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:15 am to Eli Goldfinger
I really couldn't care less about someone's sexual orientation in the military, but... interference in the primary mission of the military needs to stay in check.
Tax dollars should not be wasted dealing with transitioning, nor on needless diversity sensitivity training. It's a distraction and it weakens the overall efficiency.
Tax dollars should not be wasted dealing with transitioning, nor on needless diversity sensitivity training. It's a distraction and it weakens the overall efficiency.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:16 am to volfan30
The biggest take out of this is what everyone who is honest knows is that many transgenders will join the military in order for the government to pay for their transition surgeries and many will demand this to take place while still serving and eating up large portions of their time recooperating and not actually participating in "active duty"...
If they truly wish to serve then sign a waiver stating they will not seek government assistance for any transition procedures...
If they truly wish to serve then sign a waiver stating they will not seek government assistance for any transition procedures...
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:16 am to volfan30
I don't care about this. If our military is better for it, cool.
But, it still boggles my mind how he can flipflop on so many issues and get no blow back from his base.
But, it still boggles my mind how he can flipflop on so many issues and get no blow back from his base.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:20 am to volfan30
Good for Trump and America.
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