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re: Trump: Transgenders will not be accepted or allowed in military in any capacity
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:48 am to Salmon
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:48 am to Salmon
quote:
never stated that everyone should serve. Just that Trump stated that he would "fight for their freedoms"
That's exactly what you implies. Solid crawfish though.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:49 am to Salmon
I don't know what Trump said about trannies nor do I care. Whatever he said, this is the right move and every sane individual should agree wholeheartedly with it.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:49 am to Breesus
quote:
That's exactly what you implies. Solid crawfish though.
Context.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:49 am to Salmon
What freedoms has he fought against? He's the only president in American history to come in supporting the right to marry someone of the same sex.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:49 am to GumboPot
quote:A neovagina costs 1/10,000th of an F-35 and actually functions when wet
The costs of treating gender disphoria must be massive.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:49 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Salmon seems pretty bored if this is a hill he wants to fight on
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:50 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
Whatever he said, this is the right move and every sane individual should agree wholeheartedly with it.
I agree with it on the basis of medical expenses.
I don't know how convinced I am of the mental aptitude basis.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:50 am to Salmon
By many around here if Trump states he will fight for all of Americans and their freedoms this means he is a hypocrite if standards, rules and restrictions are in place any where at any time about any thing. Its a silly argument.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:51 am to NIH
quote:
What freedoms has he fought against?
...the freedom for tranny's to serve?
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:53 am to Breesus
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I think it's dumb to stop post-op folks from coming in, but getting the surgery while you're in puts you on a profile and takes you out of the fight for some time before and after. We have a soldier in my platoon undergoing the process now and they are going to be useless for the mission for a while before/after surgery until they are cleared. Just from that standpoint, I think it's kind of silly to have a soldier on the rolls who can't contribute to the mission because of an (arguably) elective procedure. It's a divisive issue. Comes up often when we are all sitting around talking at my unit.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:55 am to PhillyTiger90
quote:
That sucks for all 15 of them
If there are 15 transgenders that are in our military I'd be shocked. I could see one or two of them signing up just to make a spectacle but not 15 of them.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:56 am to Salmon
quote:Its obvious you are replacing the word "right" with "freedom" because you've been backed into a corner by having to admit that serving in the military isn't a right but still want to say Trump is fighting against tranny rights so say freedom instead.
the freedom for tranny's to serve?
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:56 am to Salmon
Did he run on fighting for that freedom?
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:57 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
Its obvious you are replacing the word "right" with "freedom" because you've been backed into a corner by having to admit that serving in the military isn't a right but still want to say Trump is fighting against tranny rights so say freedom instead.
I'm not replacing anything. Y'all are the ones trying to replace "freedom" with "right".
I'm using Trump's exact words.
I never claimed it was a right.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:58 am to NIH
quote:
Did he run on fighting for that freedom?
He ran on fighting for their freedoms, yes
And I realize politicians lie during their campaigns, but I also feel its ok to call them out on it as well.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:59 am to TitleistProV1X
quote:
If there are 15 transgenders that are in our military I'd be shocked. I could see one or two of them signing up just to make a spectacle but not 15 of them.
The narrative progs are pushing is that there are 15K trans serving. They are throwing this number all over social media.
Simple math says they are wrong
Around 1% of Americans serve in the military.
0.6% of Adults identify as transgender according to an NPR study: LINK
So we are talking about 0.6% of 1% if all transgenders join the military. I think you would find that less than 1% of that 0.6% even want to.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:59 am to TitleistProV1X
quote:
If there are 15 transgenders that are in our military I'd be shocked. I could see one or two of them signing up just to make a spectacle but not 15 of them.
A RAND study suggests there is probably around 11,000 such mentally ill people serving currently
LINK
Maybe a few more than that since the rule was thought to be changing.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:05 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:Does it make them less mentally ill if there are more of them?
RAND study suggests there is probably around 11,000 such mentally ill people serving currently
Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:09 am to Salmon
Link? Did he mention this made up "freedom"?
Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:10 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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A RAND study suggests there is probably around 11,000 such mentally ill people serving currently
Lol, RAND also did the women in service review concerning women in SOF operator roles too. Despite overwhelming evidence that women do not belong, and 90% disapproval rate from current SOF operators, Rand gave the recommendation that women be integrated. They chose excerpts from the SOF operator's surveys that put the operators in the worst possible light and framed the general response from the community as bigoted and overly traditional.
frick RAND, and frick the commanders that let this happen.
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