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re: Trump to use emergency authority to bypass Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Posted on 5/25/19 at 8:06 am to Perfect Circle
Posted on 5/25/19 at 8:06 am to Perfect Circle
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Is this an unprecedented action the President is taking? It is obviously lawful for him to do this. Has the emergency authority been used in this capacity by previous presidents? Is the situation one in which the declaration is appropriate? What is your specific objection? Do you object to the president sending arms to this particular country, or do you object to the president using the emergency declaration for this purpose?
Got Reagan in trouble, PC...Iran Contra.
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Posted on 5/25/19 at 8:12 am to MoarKilometers
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Feel free to enumerate the number of times this retarded logic has panned out in the middle east.
Every time an Israeli kills a terrorist.
Is Enemy of my Enemy retarded logic? It’s an ancient proverb that goes back to the dawn of history. The first record of it in writing goes back to 500 BC. But the tactic is far older. It has worked for all of human history. Let’s look at 2 examples in America’s history.
American independence was only possible because of the enemy of my enemy. France and Spain war on England and WE get our freedom. Thanks Benjamin Franklin!
We supplied the USSR with arms, ammunition, transport, food, etc.
Results: Germany- 5,533,000 military dead and 6,600,000 to 8,800,000 total dead.
Soviet Union- 8,800,000-10,700,000 military dead and 24,000,000 total dead.
United States- 416,800 military dead and 418,500 total dead.
To call this ancient tactic retarded, is pure sophistry. You totally destroy your credibility and argument by uttering such moronic crap.
Just saying.
Edit: Two snowflakes down vote reality, but cannot refute it. Because reality is irrefutable!
Edit 2: Three.
This post was edited on 5/25/19 at 11:09 am
Posted on 5/25/19 at 9:04 am to Green Chili Tiger
I am not cool with the President completely attempting to destroy democracy. We have 3 branches of government and the combined Congress voted to NOT provide these weapons to Sheik” Bone Saw”.
Posted on 5/25/19 at 9:07 am to Geauxst Writer
quote:
I am not cool with the President completely attempting to destroy democracy
But you are cool with pallets of cash flown to a country that chants death to the usa. Makes sense
Posted on 5/25/19 at 9:11 am to RCDfan1950
quote:You realize that this was when high level officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran?
Iran Contra.
So, apples and oranges, friend.
Posted on 5/25/19 at 9:14 am to Green Chili Tiger
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Trump to use lawful authority granted to the executive to bypass Congress to bypass Congress, and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
FIFY
Posted on 5/25/19 at 10:21 am to Green Chili Tiger
quote:Maybe he did, maybe he didn't
everyone here cool with this?
Posted on 5/25/19 at 10:24 am to Green Chili Tiger
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Is everyone here cool with this?
Nope. I hate our alliance with Saudi Arabia
Posted on 5/25/19 at 10:29 am to Green Chili Tiger
This is stupid on Trumps part. I was fine with the emergency declaration on the wall because it was mérites. This isn’t even debateable and utterly pathetic in Trumps part. The Saudi’s are POS and in no way is selling a bunch of terrorist sponsoring assholes representative of an emergency.
This post was edited on 5/25/19 at 10:30 am
Posted on 5/25/19 at 10:32 am to RoyalWe
quote:
You realize that this was when high level officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran?
So, apples and oranges, friend.
Kinda like the secret nuclear deal with the saudis. We just don't learn
I guess Trump doesn't care about the Saudis role in 9/11... much more concerned with protecting the leeches in Israel
This post was edited on 5/25/19 at 10:34 am
Posted on 5/25/19 at 10:36 am to Geauxst Writer
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I am not cool with the President completely attempting to destroy democracy.
This is ignorant, simplistic thinking.
This is a complex issue with stated executive power (foreign affairs) and Youngstown Sheet.
Posted on 5/25/19 at 10:40 am to mjfrog93
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Some translations of Q drops suggest that the people running the country in Iran are deep state and compromising the ayatollah, just as there are Chinese based deep state operators infiltrating NK and Kim Jong UN.
Didn't Q say that rocketman was CIA?
Posted on 5/25/19 at 10:43 am to Geauxst Writer
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the combined Congress voted to NOT provide these weapons
And Congress passed another law giving authority.
When you have so damn many complex laws that people are unaware of, or don't understand,
you essentially have none.
Posted on 5/25/19 at 10:54 am to Geauxst Writer
quote:
the combined Congress voted to NOT provide these weapons to Sheik” Bone Saw”.
Where in Article I is Congress granted this authority?
Posted on 5/25/19 at 10:57 am to Green Chili Tiger
They’re killing Hezbollah and Hamas. I’m sure our Muslims in congress don’t appreciate it.
Posted on 5/25/19 at 10:58 am to Green Chili Tiger
I do not have much of a problem selling arms to KSA. We have been doing so for many, many years.
But I HATE another fake emergency declaration. In the entire history of the 1976 NEA, there have been MAYBE a half-dozen real emergencies worthy of reliance on the Act.
But I HATE another fake emergency declaration. In the entire history of the 1976 NEA, there have been MAYBE a half-dozen real emergencies worthy of reliance on the Act.
Posted on 5/25/19 at 11:02 am to omegaman66
quote:DPOTD.
Certain countries are aligned with Trump and some are aligned with the DS. Saudi Arabia has chosen the good side of that argument. Iran is the strong hold of the DS. I trust this move completely.
Posted on 5/25/19 at 11:11 am to Magician2
The Petro-dollar yo. We stuck, thank Johnson and Nixon directly as well as everyone since who thinks we can run to printing money to solve our problems.
Posted on 5/25/19 at 11:15 am to bmy
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I guess Trump doesn't care about the Saudis role in 9/11.
The last 16 years of Presidents had the chance.
Just go ahead and blame DJT for not addressing all the worlds ills of the past and get it over with
Posted on 5/25/19 at 11:16 am to omegaman66
quote:
Certain countries are aligned with Trump and some are aligned with the DS. Saudi Arabia has chosen the good side of that argument. Iran is the strong hold of the DS. I trust this move completely.
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