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re: Trump to sign 'right to try' bill next week

Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:50 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:50 am to
Lol. Keep it up.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138902 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:51 am to
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But when you remove third parties, real informed consent and clinical efficacy, it’s a three-ring circus.

“Bob, I understand you have dick cancer and that you have $300k. We would like to take the $300k and do something no one is sure is going to work. Whaddya day, Bob?”

But Bob still has the option of saying "no, I want the dick cancer drugs that have been proven to be effective", right?
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
16376 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:52 am to
Did a Pharm Rep frick your wife?

You are angry my man.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:52 am to
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Lol. Keep it up.
Choices and options are difficult for some people I guess.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42349 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:53 am to
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You can charge people anything you want for medicine that may not even work.


How much would you be willing to pay in order to possibly survive a terminal disease? Or extend time with family.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:53 am to
He does. But you open the door for pharma companies to prey upon people in one of their most vulnerable states. This isn’t a “drain the swamp” move or “sticking it to the man.”
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:53 am to
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FDA doesn’t care about this


Bull crap they dont... The horror if someone can manage to develop more effective medicine without government involvement...

If someone has the means to pay, who in the hell has the right to restrict them from trying something?

Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93267 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:53 am to
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Ironically the party for abortion and assisted suicide is against taking drugs that might kill terminally ill patients if it has the intent to save or help them. The party of death.


this sums it up perfectly

i regret i have but one upvote to give.
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 11:54 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:53 am to
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How much would you be willing to pay in order to possibly survive a terminal disease? Or extend time with family.


That’s the point. Experimental drugs don’t do that as a general rule. If they do, they get approved.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46845 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:54 am to
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But Bob still has the option of saying "no, I want the dick cancer drugs that have been proven to be effective", right?
I don't think leftists understand that this isn't to replace approved drugs with unapproved drugs. It's to allow patients a choice to take anything that might give them a chance to be healed given that they will die otherwise. It's meant to give hope and the possibility of extended life to the dying and the left doesn't like it because it removes some control from the government.
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
2889 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:55 am to
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You can charge people anything you want for medicine that may not even work. Big pharma’s wet dream.


This differs from normal, approved medication how exactly?

I’m guessing you want the government to step in and make personal decisions for people? The patient is terminally ill, the patient wants to try and pay for an unapproved medication. Why does the government have any right to tell them they can’t?
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22094 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:55 am to
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who worry sidelining the FDA puts patients in danger
yeah, wouldn't want to put those dying people in danger of dying. Healthy people if they want to have doctor assisted suicide, sure. Kill unborn babies up to birth if you decide you don't want them, fine. But God forbid (except they don't think there is a god) you let dying people try anything risky to help themselves. Also you can't take a baby we are starving to death on an ambulance ride because it might be bad for him. The left is morally retarded, that's all there is to it. Also just the regular retarded.
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 11:58 am
Posted by TexasTiger86
Member since Apr 2017
203 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:57 am to
They have to go through a lengthy process before they can get approved. It takes an average of 12 years to be approved. That is time that a lot of terminal patients don’t have. If a patient is fully informed of the potential side effects, then there is no reason they should be denied the opportunity to save their lives.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:57 am to
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I’m guessing you want the government to step in and make personal decisions for people?


I don’t. If Gramma wants to drain her life savings for an unproven medicine, have at it. Let’s just not pretend this is a huge patient’s rights win.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90539 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:58 am to
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Let’s just not pretend this is a huge patient’s rights win.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22094 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:59 am to
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I don’t. If Gramma wants to drain her life savings for an unproven medicine, have at it. Let’s just not pretend this is a huge patient’s rights win.
god damn youre stupid. Everything I've ever seen you post is ludicrously stupid. Do you ever look in the mirror and say, "god damn I'm worthless" ? Because you should
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 12:00 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:00 pm to
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This differs from normal, approved medication how exactly?


In every way?
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36317 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:00 pm to
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“Bob, I understand you have dick cancer and that you have $300k. We would like to take the $300k and do something no one is sure is going to work. Whaddya day, Bob?”


"The place down the street offered the same thing for 10k, so you can go frick yourself."
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28552 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:00 pm to
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My pussy doesn’t hurt thanks.



right, because it's been fisted so raw that it's now numb to the pain
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:01 pm to
You seem mentally ill.
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