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re: Trump to sign 'right to try' bill next week
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:01 pm to the808bass
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:01 pm to the808bass
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He does. But you open the door for pharma companies to prey upon people in one of their most vulnerable states. This isn’t a “drain the swamp” move or “sticking it to the man.”
You don't think they're already doing this?
I mean, purposely killing everyone who takes your drug (or it's complete lack of efficacy) isn't a great long term business plan.
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:01 pm to the808bass
quote:Patients are gaining the ability to try drugs that might help them. How is that not a "win" for them?
If Gramma wants to drain her life savings for an unproven medicine, have at it. Let’s just not pretend this is a huge patient’s rights win.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:01 pm to the808bass
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Know who loves right to try?
People with no other options.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:02 pm to junkfunky
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The place down the street offered the same thing for 10k, so you can go frick yourself.
There is no “place down the street” for experimental medicine. That’s another point. Thanks for bringing it up.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:02 pm to FooManChoo
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Patients are gaining the ability to try drugs that might help them. How is that not a "win" for them?
If the drug offers no clinical benefit?
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:03 pm to upgrayedd
I’m trying to figure out how this really any different from something like a drug trial. People in a drug trial are taking a drug that is not approved yet. I don’t see the outrage for that.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:03 pm to the808bass
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There is no “place down the street” for experimental medicine. That’s another point. Thanks for bringing it up.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:03 pm to upgrayedd
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You don't think they're already doing this?
In a more guarded and regulated manner, you could argue that there is some of this going on. This bill opens the floodgates.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:04 pm to the808bass
quote:That's a risk they are now allowed to take. Some drugs will be helpful. Others won't.
If the drug offers no clinical benefit?
Are you honestly saying that if a loved one was dying and would most likely be dead in weeks or months with currently approved treatments, you wouldn't be in favor of trying an unapproved treatment if it might help?
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:04 pm to the808bass
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If the drug offers no clinical benefit?
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:05 pm to Jbird
For those against the Right to Try Bill: I hope you do not have someone close to you with a terminal illness when the doctor says, "There is nothing more we can do other than offer you hospice care".
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:05 pm to FooManChoo
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. It's to allow patients a choice to take anything that might give them a chance to be healed given that they will die otherwise. It's meant to give hope and the possibility of extended life to the dying and the left doesn't like it because it removes some control from the government.
I believe there was a poster on the OT who's dad was suffering from terminal cancer. He was giving his dad some sort of CBD oil but didn't tell the doctor because he said the guy would've flipped. After giving him the oil for a few weeks the doc noticed an improvement in his numbers. I believe his dad ended up passing away but I think his age was likely a large factor. But, he should be able to have the freedom to make a reasoned decision as to how he wants to be treated.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:06 pm to the808bass
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n a more guarded and regulated manner,
Well, after all of your rambling and sidestepping it all really comes down to this doesnt it...
Sorry bud, one of my kids is terminal and I am trying everything to make it go away...
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:06 pm to FooManChoo
quote:Of course because big pharma!
Are you honestly saying that if a loved one was dying and would most likely be dead in weeks or months with currently approved treatments, you wouldn't be in favor of trying an unapproved treatment if it might help?
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:06 pm to the808bass
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You seem mentally ill.
coming from the cuck with the raw vag, I'll take that in stride and carry on
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:07 pm to the808bass
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In a more guarded and regulated manner, you could argue that there is some of this going on. This bill opens the floodgates.
Well, you don't have any real evidence that it will happen, so maybe we cross that bridge when we get there. I know deregulation scares a lot of people, but we have to give it a chance.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:08 pm to TexasTiger86
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I’m trying to figure out how this really any different from something like a drug trial. People in a drug trial are taking a drug that is not approved yet. I don’t see the outrage for that.
Yeah, I don't see any real difference either
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:09 pm to Jbird
Progs will now hate this because Trump supports it.
Trump will define their platform on this like he does everywhere else.
Trump will define their platform on this like he does everywhere else.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:12 pm to FooManChoo
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Are you honestly saying that if a loved one was dying and would most likely be dead in weeks or months with currently approved treatments, you wouldn't be in favor of trying an unapproved treatment if it might help?
I probably would advise against it. Sometimes death happens. The chances of even extending life after a terminal diagnosis with an experimental medicine is almost minuscule. False hope isn’t hope.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:13 pm to the808bass
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I probably would advise against it. Sometimes death happens. The chances of even extending life after a terminal diagnosis with an experimental medicine is almost minuscule. False hope isn’t hope.
That's the most cold blooded shite I've heard in a while.
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