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re: Trump to deliver prime-time address to nation

Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:02 pm to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:02 pm to
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The target nations deemed "uncooperative" to American will and whims are targeted.

This just doesn’t comport with all of the data. Saudi Arabi, for example, has at times pursued policies that were very damaging to America, and to my knowledge we didn’t target them for regime change. But the Saudis policies were objectionable on merely commercial greounds.

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Who died and made the US-Global imperialists overlord of the world?

The UK.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2946 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:11 pm to
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This just doesn’t comport with all of the data.

Saudi Arabi, for example, has at times pursued policies that were very damaging to America, and to my knowledge we didn’t target them for regime change. But the Saudis policies were objectionable on merely commercial greounds.


What "data" is needed? We've lived it.

SA is a client state of the US. Plus US leaders have always been tight with them -- Trump is no exception.

I can't recall which policies might have been "damaging" to America, but any policy "objections" we've had with them have been relatively minor. They buy MIC hardware and deal in USD, and we and Isreal buy their oil while protecting their royals. In turn they also kiss the Presidents arse on the big stage -- and all is good.

Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2946 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:12 pm to
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The UK.


True

But here's another one:

Does Switzerland own both?
Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
10250 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:14 pm to
I’ve been living my life, doing better financially, come to this board and it’s like the world is on fire.

What has happened to this board. So much emotional overreaction.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85183 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:19 pm to
Drumpf!
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84580 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:22 pm to
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I can't recall which policies might have been "damaging" to America


[laughs in JET FUEL CAN’T MELT STEEL BEAMS]
Posted by LightHeat
Member since Oct 2020
471 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:25 pm to
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I think you have to agree that something else is in play besides a desire to co-opt a country’s oil industry. Like Libya, Iran and Venezuela are our geo-political enemies.


It's possible it's a side deal. Lev Parnas said ( link to video, skip ahead to 12:30) that during Trump's first term, when Juan Guaido was trying to take power, Maduro was willing to pay 2 Billion (with a "B") barrels of oil, valued at the time at $71/barrel, to people close to the Administration for a soft landing. That deal was apparently squelched by John Bolton, but it's enough money that it would still be tempting.

If the recent events with Venezuela are intended to precipitate such a side deal, watch for an announcement that we are stepping up pressure on Venezuela tonight because of their various crimes, and then later a resolution of the tension allowing Maduro to escape to somewhere reasonable.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19270 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:28 pm to
I'm finna get drafted because I ain't no Senator's son.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2946 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:31 pm to
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[laughs in JET FUEL CAN’T MELT STEEL BEAMS]


[laughs in MYTHICAL NARRATIVE 18 SAUDIS WITH BOXCUTTERS AND ZERO FLYING EXPERIENCE HIT WTC WITH PRECISION, VAPORIZING BOTH BUILDINGS]

(Saudi scapegoats)
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52506 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 7:21 pm to
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Maduro was willing to pay 2 Billion (with a "B") barrels of oil, valued at the time at $71/barrel, to people close to the Administration for a soft landing. That deal was apparently squelched by John Bolton, but it's enough money that it would still be tempting.

Eye Caramba! That would be hard for Mother Theresa to pass up.

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If the recent events with Venezuela are intended to precipitate such a side deal, watch for an announcement that we are stepping up pressure on Venezuela tonight because of their various crimes, and then later a resolution of the tension allowing Maduro to escape to somewhere reasonable.

Any deal is going to include Maduro getting a posh retirement. Why not? What do we gain by killing him? Unless he refuses to deal.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6211 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 7:25 pm to
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ZERO FLYING EXPERIENCE

Dude...
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Hijackers' Training: Some of the 9/11 hijackers, including lead hijacker Mohamed Atta and others, took flight training at U.S. flight schools, primarily in Florida (Huffman Aviation) and Arizona, with some later receiving refresher courses.

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