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re: Trump to announce $12 billion aid package to farmers
Posted on 12/9/25 at 9:54 am to CastleBravo
Posted on 12/9/25 at 9:54 am to CastleBravo
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When the rest of the world subsidizes their farmers that sell into our market at a discount, we need to protect our food source.
There it is.
MAGA: We must be more socialist to compete with socialists.
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:31 am to bigjoe1
Unpopular opinion here, but I'd rather be subsidizing American farmers in the short term to help rebuild a razed agriculture industry, than to keep sending money overseas to help gender studies programs in Abu Dhabi or wasting more money in Ukraine on a losing effort.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:34 am to TigerAxeOK
Some more details on this aid I heard on local radio today.
1. Payouts will be capped 155,000 dollars per person. They said person, not operation. Dunno if they misspoke here or if an operation has more than one owner then you can get more
2. Entity must earn 900,000k per year or less to qualify so large corporate farms won’t qualify
3. Payment will be calculated as a per acre dollar amount based on input costs for each crop type.
4. 11 billion for rowcrops, the other 1 billion is for specialty crops. They specifically named two specialty crops in MS eligible as tree farms and catfish.
5. money is supposed to be available by end of February
1. Payouts will be capped 155,000 dollars per person. They said person, not operation. Dunno if they misspoke here or if an operation has more than one owner then you can get more
2. Entity must earn 900,000k per year or less to qualify so large corporate farms won’t qualify
3. Payment will be calculated as a per acre dollar amount based on input costs for each crop type.
4. 11 billion for rowcrops, the other 1 billion is for specialty crops. They specifically named two specialty crops in MS eligible as tree farms and catfish.
5. money is supposed to be available by end of February
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:37 am to SDVTiger
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How much more are we paying on daily essentials cause of tariffs?
Trump says it is enough that he will be getting rid of tariffs on some AG products. Perhaps you need to ask him.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There it is
Give us the way in which you would fix the ag economy/ag policy in this country
Also how would you help rural communities?
Posted on 12/9/25 at 1:36 pm to deltaland
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2. Entity must earn 900,000k per year or less to qualify so large corporate farms won’t qualify
Ouch
Posted on 12/9/25 at 1:36 pm to deltaland
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Entity must earn 900,000k per year or less to qualify so large corporate farms won’t qualify
There are a whole lot of farms that aren’t corporate farms that earn that much. That’s a pretty low number.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 2:21 pm to Midtiger farm
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Give us the way in which you would fix the ag economy/ag policy in this country
Cut regulations, and govt involvement in markets.
Use anti trust laws to do what they are supposed to do as well.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 4:18 pm to deltaland
The $155,000 cap is per person usually. So if you have a farm operation a lot of times a farmers have their wife’s together on the operation, which classifies it as a partnership operation So if that’s the case you and your wife can get up to $310,000 but if your a sole operator it’s only $155,000.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 4:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Cut regulations,
What regulations do you want to cut that would help?
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govt involvement in markets.
How is the govt involved in the markets?
quote:
Use anti trust laws to do what they are supposed to do as well.
What ag companies do you want to use anti trust laws to break up?
Posted on 12/9/25 at 4:22 pm to Midtiger farm
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How is the govt involved in the markets?
Youre not a serious person. Holy cow...
Posted on 12/9/25 at 4:24 pm to deltaland
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Entity must earn 900,000k per year or less to qualify so large corporate farms won’t qualify
your AGI has to be below 900k which 90% of the people who can receive this payment have an AGI below 900k
It the same rule thats attached to every farm payment
Posted on 12/9/25 at 4:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Youre not a serious person. Holy cow...
Explain it to me then explain how to correct the problem
And answer the other 3 questions I asked you
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 12/9/25 at 4:42 pm to bigjoe1
Chairman Don demands subsidies for the masses
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 12/9/25 at 5:18 pm to Midtiger farm
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Explain it to me then
Without govt intervention, markets are self regulating and competition keeps prices low and innovation high.
Thats not what we have.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 5:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Without govt intervention, markets are self regulating and competition keeps prices low and innovation high.
This is generic economics teaching
I want you to explain the ways the govt is part of ag markets, how to get them out, and the good and bad once they get out
Also I’m still waiting on the answers to the other questions
Posted on 12/9/25 at 6:44 pm to bigjoe1
quote:China ain't buying beans CNBC
U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer told a Senate Appropriations subcommittee on Tuesday that the deadline for China to buy 12 million metric tons of soybeans from American farmers was not the end of December as the White House has said, but the end of the “growing season.”
Greer’s comment at the hearing came on the heels of a report by NBC News showing that the pace of China’s purchase of soybeans in recent weeks was well short of reaching the agreed amount by the end of the calendar year.
China, which in October agreed to end its monthslong boycott of American soybeans amid a trade war, to date has bought only about 3 million metric tons, the trade representative told members of the Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies subcommittee.
Greer said there was a “discrepancy” in what the White House has described as the deadline and the actual deadline for the purchases to be completed.
The most recent growing season for soybeans ended in November, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
CNBC has asked Greer’s office whether there is a hard or rough deadline for China to reach 12 million metric tons of purchases, as agreed to as part of a trade agreement with President Donald Trump in October.
Greer’s disclosure came in response to a question by Sen. Deb Fischer, R-Neb.
“There remains anxiety about if and when China will fully follow through on those purchase commitments that were made,” Fischer said.
She noted that the White House fact sheet on the trade deal said China would purchase 12 million metric tons by the end of the calendar year -- contradicting recent comments from Greer.
The fact sheet says, “China will purchase at least 12 million metric tons (MMT) of U.S. soybeans during the last two months of 2025 and also purchase at least 25 MMT of U.S. soybeans in each of 2026, 2027, and 2028.”
Greer told Fischer, “It is for this growing season, so, thank you for highlighting that.”
’“We’ve heard from a couple farmers, they wanted to know about that discrepancy, and it is a discrepancy, it’s through the growing season,” he said.
Joe Glauber, a former U.S. Department of Agriculture chief economist during the Obama administration, told CNBC in an interview he doesn’t know what the administration means when it refers to the growing season.
“It’s not a term that USDA means by any chance,” Glauber said. “Does that mean at harvests or does that mean actually the end of the marketing year, which is the more common way?”
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent last week said that he expected China to reach the 12 million metric ton mark by “the end of the season.”
“So I think that’ll be February 28th,” Bessent said, during an interview with Andrew Ross Sorkin at The New York Times “Deal Book Summit” in New York.
“They are in a perfect cadence to complete that goal,” Bessent said, after Ross Sorkin said data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture as of Nov. 14 showed that China had only purchased 330,000 metric tons.
Bessent called the figure Ross Sorkin cited “bad information.”
Posted on 12/9/25 at 7:15 pm to Midtiger farm
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your AGI has to be below 900k which 90% of the people who can receive this payment have an AGI below 900k It the same rule thats attached to every farm payment
This. Most every “normal” row crop farm will qualify.
I know the farm welfare topic is always highly criticized.
A lot of people don’t understand how reliant the rural economy is on the farm economy. And I do realize that just like every other industry, there are people who take advantage of the system.
So that being said, everybody that works at equipment dealers, chemical suppliers, bankers, etc. are paid more and get bonuses when farms pay their bills to them. When those people get bonuses, they buy hunting supplies, their wives shop more on Main Street, they make improvements to their homes, and so on and so forth.
Just making the argument as someone who manages a relatively large and stable row crop farm.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 8:31 pm to prostyleoffensetime
Yep exactly, rural towns wouldn’t exist without the ag industry. Heck there’s alot of small rural towns that are ghost town and that’s because the ag industry died in the area
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