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re: Trump: “The traitors that told the military to disobey my orders should be in jail”
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:56 am to northshorebamaman
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:56 am to northshorebamaman
quote:That is false.
He used codes: agreed-upon insider terms that carry a hidden, specific meaning understood only by the intended group.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:59 am to SallysHuman
It was several days back. But you are correct. I went and re-edited. It does match up with a video. Sorry for any confusion. I don’t remember where I got it. Probably some news hack that used AI to generate a transcription and AI took it upon him on herself to use interpretation. It also incorporated their very brief introductions. Sorry for any confusion.
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:02 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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It was several days back. But you are correct. I went and re-edited. It does match up with a video. Sorry for any confusion. I don’t remember where I got it. Probably some news hack that used AI to generate a transcription and AI took it upon him on herself to use interpretation. Sorry for any confusion.
No, you're all good... While RA found it easy enough, I had a very hard time locating the text and had zero desire to listen a thousand times to type the whole thing out.
Finding accurate info is tough, no harm no foul.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:03 pm to SallysHuman
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Full video with introductions
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:07 pm to hawgfaninc
He took the bait. This will further feed the narrative that his orders were "illegal orders".
Did he have a choice to respond any other way? Probably not. But to the ignorant Left, this is going to come across as his "admission" that he is illegally ordering troops to oppress "American citizens".
It's bullshite, but you gotta give it to the Dim Establishment - they're really good at gaslighting their retarded sheep.
Did he have a choice to respond any other way? Probably not. But to the ignorant Left, this is going to come across as his "admission" that he is illegally ordering troops to oppress "American citizens".
It's bullshite, but you gotta give it to the Dim Establishment - they're really good at gaslighting their retarded sheep.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:09 pm to SallysHuman
quote:I guess.
so both your text and Tange's are correct- they just need to be spliced together?
The problem is that it is not a script released by the authors, but rather two different people trying to transcribe what they heard in the video.
You almost always get small differences in transcription ... sometimes even from two trained court reporters.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Thats the kind of emotional overreaction Democrats were looking for.
A statement of fact is only considered emotional overreaction to over emotional liberal women. Like you.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:11 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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The problem is that it is not a script released by the authors, but rather two different people trying to transcribe what they heard in the video.
Fair enough... they oughta just release their own script and let people mull it over.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:11 pm to Harry Boutte
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At least one Trump appointed judge agrees with you in the case of Portland.
Now do LA. And the appellate courts.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:16 pm to HighStatus
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Reality doesn't matter to y'all. Crazy part is, y'all actually think the majority of America thinks like y'all lmao. Like the majority of America believes things with no proof. Like the majority of America sees Trump as God and only his word matters. Y'all would get slaughtered if y'all got violent in mass numbers. Like literally. Y'all are too fricking dumb to actually be dangerous. Y'all will welcome anyone who dick sucks Trump and get yall whole crew of cornballs knocked off overnight. fricking idiots man smh.
Like literally okay. Like right.
You know how I know you’re trans? Cause you’re mentally unstable. Get help sir.
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:17 pm to BBONDS25
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Now do LA. And the appellate courts.
Completely irrelevant. One judge determining the president is issuing unlawful orders is sufficient to issue a WARNING. Nobody is making the claim that all of Trump's orders are unlawful.
You're trying way too hard.
Warning troops not to follow unlawful orders after a judge has determined an order to be unlawful is not sedition. It just isn't, no matter how badly you want it to be.
Trump's other lie is that the penalty for sedition is death, when it is only a fine or imprisonment of not more than twenty years, or both.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:18 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:You're right. But not for the reason you think.
That is false.
From the Second Circuit opinion in United States v. Rahman:
-He told one follower to “turn his rifle’s barrel to President Mubarak’s chest, and kill him.”
-He told another “Carry out this operation. Go ahead.” referring to the assassination plan.
-On a parishioner asking if he understood his instructions to bomb civilians “Yes, it’s a must, it’s a duty.”
-Another metaphor: “plan to destroy or bomb or inflict damage to the American Army.”
That is what a seditious conspiracy conviction looks like. People asking him for permission to kill specific people and bomb specific locations, and him giving them the green light.
Trying to compare that to “refuse illegal orders” is not serious and between this and your daycare analogy I'm starting to suspect you aren't a serious person. The PSA repeats the actual UCMJ requirement. It gives no target, no plan, no hidden meaning, and no operational approval of any kind. It does not tell anyone to refuse lawful orders, and unless you are ready to argue Trump gives illegal ones, there is no sedition angle to work with.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:19 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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Not one serious legal scholar has taken this position, Donald.
They want to remain anonymous
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:26 pm to antibarner
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WHERE were these protectors of the military when Biden and his thugs were forcing them to take that unproven Covid shot, and persecuting those that would not?
Even after we knew they were wronged for certain WHERE WERE THEY to right the wrong?
Even Donald and crew didn't right the wrong on that. They offered them their jobs back only if they signed a statement that they were in no way coerced or pressured by the government to take the vaccine.
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:30 pm to Harry Boutte
quote:BBonds has specifically stated that he does not believe the Tweet to constitute "sedition" under section 2384.
Warning troops not to follow unlawful orders after a judge has determined an order to be unlawful is not sedition. It just isn't, no matter how badly you want it to be
ETA: My apologies. That was Godfather, but I suspect that BBonds agrees ... because he appears to be a competent attorney.
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:40 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:You insinuate you have a source. Link it.
Actual directives about real targets.
From the Second Circuit opinion in United States v. Rahman:
-He told one follower to “turn his rifle’s barrel to President Mubarak’s chest, and kill him.”
-He told another “Carry out this operation. Go ahead.” referring to the assassination plan.
-On a parishioner asking if he understood his instructions to bomb civilians “Yes, it’s a must, it’s a duty.”
Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:04 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Even Donald and crew didn't right the wrong on that. They offered them their jobs back only if they signed a statement that they were in no way coerced or pressured by the government to take the vaccine.
Havent heard that Link please but it still doesn't clear the hypocrite Democrats we are discussing.
They should be arrested and lets see how the legal system deals with them.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:08 pm to BBONDS25
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A statement of fact is only considered emotional overreaction to over emotional liberal women. Like Trump
Fixed it for you buddy...
Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:20 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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he appears to be a competent attorney
That he may be, but he's certainly a troll.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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How can telling people to follow the law and Constitution be sedition?
When following military or CIA or FBI orders, who decides what is and isn't Constitutional.
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