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re: Trump: “The traitors that told the military to disobey my orders should be in jail”

Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:52 am to
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67246 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:52 am to

You can debate the wisdom of making such a video, but what they said comports with the law..
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
1100 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:52 am to
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The “Blind Sheikh” did not give literal, explicit orders like “Go bomb this.” He used coded religious rhetoric and metaphors which his followers understood as instructions for violent attacks. He was convicted of .... wait4it .... seditious conspiracy.
He was speaking in code to people who had memorized the codebook.

Are you suggesting that Kelly, et al were doing the same?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293632 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:53 am to
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Trumps reaction was “sedition is punishable by death.”


Yep, he's the easiest person to play.

Thats the kind of emotional overreaction Democrats were looking for.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
13310 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:54 am to
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Yep, he's the easiest person to play.


I'm glad you and the PSA asshats think this is a game.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293632 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:57 am to
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I'm glad you and the PSA asshats think this is a game.


It is. Troll Trump, works like a charm every single time.

Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17181 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:01 am to
Of course. They were using subliminal language effectively.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3454 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:02 am to
quote:

the president sending national guard to help cities is illegal

At least one Trump appointed judge agrees with you in the case of Portland.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135236 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:02 am to
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I understand now. To you, anyone who says something that you take as insulting to Trump is like a mass murderer plotting a terrorist bombing.
No.
You don't understand.

Military operations can be a lethal business. In some instances, it's kill or be killed. Mission success is contingent on the entire team following orders in a coordinated, reliable way. A breakdown of that structure or of the confidence in it can have dire, potentially lethal, consequences.

Messaging such as that of Rocket Man and his band of seditious nitwits can confuse a teenager in military service, like, for example a Bradley Manning.

It's evident you don't understand that at all.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
13008 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:04 am to
Hegseth and the pentagon could start by recalling the ones who were military, arrest and court-martial them.

Easy-Peasy
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
1100 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:04 am to
quote:

quote:

(The Blind Sheik) was speaking in code to people who had memorized the codebook.

Are you suggesting that Kelly, et al were doing the same?
Of course. They were using subliminal language effectively.
I would love to see Kelly's codebook and learn which of his words translate to "use violent force to overthrow the government."
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17181 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:05 am to
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Democrats troll Trump looking for overreactions and it works like a charm.


POTUS Trump speaks the truth and Democrats ask for a security detail.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
25960 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:09 am to
We will give them security....in Leavenworth they'll be safe there.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293632 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:12 am to
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POTUS Trump speaks the truth



He's lying to you yet again. There is no sedition. He got his feelings hurt.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37375 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:16 am to
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Of course. They were using subliminal language effectively.
Except the sheik didn't use subliminal language. He used codes: agreed-upon insider terms that carry a hidden, specific meaning understood only by the intended group.

Not analogous to subliminal language which is vague or emotionally suggestive wording with no fixed hidden meaning and no shared decoding system.

This dog doesn't hunt, guys.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
2000 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:36 am to
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HighStatus

I'll grant you this, you sure are one long winded SOB.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135236 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:39 am to
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He was speaking in code
No.
He used broad, metaphorical language—talking about “striking at enemies,” “cutting the head of the serpent,” “fighting oppression,” etc.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
4133 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:46 am to
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Sending a tweet is not an act of "force


But elected officials advising military personnel to not take orders, and going as far as saying they are bound to not listen...in itself is absolutely conspiring
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39323 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:50 am to
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Not so much.

They simply said that members of the military should not follow unlawful orders


The implication of orders being unlawful are seditious.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39323 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:51 am to
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Name the crimes committed and who did them.


When the 6 people were asked what orders have been unlawful and from who, they named zero.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293632 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:55 am to
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But elected officials advising military personnel to not take orders, and going as far as saying they are bound to not listen...in itself is absolutely conspiring



Democrats did it again, trapped MAGA into an emotional reaction.

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