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re: Trump tells the UK to “go get your own oil”; the “USA won’t be there to help you”

Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:46 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477256 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:46 am to
quote:

The "chaos" was always going to come

You keep trying to push this assumption and it doesn't make it anymore true.

You believe it was going to come, but history doesn't back that up.

We've been in this conflict since 1953, so there is a LOT of data.

Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19587 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:47 am to
Sweet, get the troops out. Start today.

Abandon Europe to the Muslims.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68504 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:47 am to
We have hit the bottom of the meme. Incredible.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477256 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:49 am to
That and the "there has been regime change" deserve ALL the clown memes



honk
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70546 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:51 am to
If you don’t have a plan, don’t act like you do. If you don’t have a clear goal, don’t act until you do. If you have an objective, make the case for it to get buy-in and act with the will and logistics to support it.

This action appears poorly thought out, half-measured, and with no clear end-game or means of de-escalation.

Attacking Iran will always mean disruptions to shipping lanes and attacks on regional energy infrastructure. If those are acceptable risks, act accordingly, but not finishing the job just leaves all of those things vulnerable. If you don’t have the political will or forces to do that whole job, the world is probably better off leaving the status quo alone.
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
2052 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:53 am to
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And now when they actually have something of value to add for once, they refuse.


And the kicker is that a very small proportion of the oil that flows though the strait is headed for the US.

In effect, the Europeans are not willing to pursue their own share of the supply chain.

The purest form of Socialism is slavery.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23044 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:56 am to
If we killed all their leadership, who's controlling the strait
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
2052 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:06 am to
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This action appears poorly thought out, half-measured, and with no clear end-game or means of de-escalation.


So you come up with this synopsis while the Iranians are mulling over 15 specific end-game objectives.

The world is better off if Iran does not possess a nuclear arsenal and a ballistic missile delivery capability.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477256 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:08 am to
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So you come up with this synopsis while the Iranians are mulling over 15 specific end-game objectives.


They just have to outlast us, and it appears that's working.

If we pull out without regime change and the SOH fricked, then that's a victory for the regime.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
32090 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:10 am to
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Agree with the sentiment but the UK has an adequate supply in the North Sea.
Good for them, they are well prepared to be on their own.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10721 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:12 am to
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Also, of note, Hegseth said "regime change has occurred in Iran." No shite they've killed everyone and then the ones after that.

Nice word play in an attempt to wrap this up before Donnie's approval ratings sink even lower.


That is just fricking stupid.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139071 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:19 am to
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Agree with the sentiment but the UK has an adequate supply in the North Sea.
In fact, the UK does not have an adequate supply of oil in the North Sea. (1) production in the UK's North Sea Wells is dwindling, (2) the UK is not set, unbelievably, to refine it's North Sea oil.
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
2052 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:41 am to
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They just have to outlast us, and it appears that's working.


The Iranian economy is on the brink of complete collapse.

Nobody can say that Trump isn't giving them an opportunity to end this.

The notion that we have to follow an exact timeline is purely media fabricated BS.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20310 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:44 am to
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creating massive messes than expects other people to come in and clean them up.


This alone shows just how retarded you are.

This is a geopolitical masterpiece that stops Iran in their tracks and neuters China and Russia. If you can’t see the long term positive implications you need to remove your TDS colored glasses.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23044 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:47 am to
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This is a geopolitical masterpiece that stops Iran in their tracks and neuters China and Russia. If you can’t see the long term positive implications you need to remove your TDS colored glasses.




I actually can't tell if this is satire
Posted by engvol
england
Member since Sep 2009
5355 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:47 am to
Not helped by governments banning exploration for more
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21933 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
11310 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

Strong men created that empire.

Every empire was built by strong men

quote:

Then liberal bleeding heart pu$$ies destroyed it.


This is also a sign of a dying Empire. Leadership is based less on competence and signs of vitality. Think about Teddy Roosevelt and how he was portrayed vs frail arse Joe Biden.

Other factors:

Rapid Inflation (older empires debased coinage by blending in cheaper metals with silver)

Welfare

Fascination with sexual deviance

Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76528 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:33 pm to
True. I didn't want this either but I'm holding out hope it was for good reasons we don't yet know. May it end well for the Iranian people. It better have come mid terms.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477256 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

The Iranian economy is on the brink of complete collapse.

It's been that way for months prior to this invasion.

quote:

The notion that we have to follow an exact timeline is purely media fabricated BS.

Who said they do?

I said the Iranian regime just has to outlast us, and it appears that strategy is working.
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