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re: Trump tells the UK to “go get your own oil”; the “USA won’t be there to help you”

Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:15 am to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63842 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:15 am to
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And you sound like a effin retard.


How so? Be detailed.
Posted by creeper
Member since Nov 2011
197 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:18 am to
By replying to my detailed comment retard.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63842 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:19 am to
Oh, well, your statement about your imaginary job was dumb. Sorry not sorry.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5914 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:20 am to
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You’ll have to start learning how to fight for yourself, the U.S.A. won’t be there to help you anymore


This should inspire the Iranian to rise up against a brutal regime knowing America and Israel will be riding sidecar with them.
Posted by creeper
Member since Nov 2011
197 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:21 am to
Lets see, I got paid because I did work. I understand why you say its imaginary, but doing work in the gulf of America is not, retard.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68532 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:22 am to
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The fact that y'all don't see the issue with this just shows how emotionally compromised you are and your irrationality towards our allies.


I know this is yet another one of your trolls to take a losing and unpopular argument and sharpen your shitty argument skills, but I'll dignify you with a response.

Globalists would love for the current model to continue where the US basically is NATO and all the other "allies" get our protection for effectively nothing.

Trump has been on this since his first term. Some have paid a little more, but nowhere near the value of the security they're getting in return. And now when they actually have something of value to add for once, they refuse.

So, once again, they can go shite in their hat.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139071 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:24 am to
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By the way, “wokeness” is a U.S. export.
No.

It is a Chinese import.
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
2052 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:25 am to
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It’s going to get interesting when he starts putting export controls on American oil


The LNG exports to Europe will increase in USD transactions due to the damage to the LNG facilities in the UAE and Qatar.

Venezuela and Iran were the two largest oil supply channels that existed outside of the USD system.

Trump is actually better off just sitting with three CVNs in a triangular formation in the Middle East because Iran's economy is imploding on its own.

The people in the UK need to vote out Labour and start deporting en mass.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477259 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:25 am to
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I know this is yet another one of your trolls

wut

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Globalists

Want war with Iran. So does the Deep State.

Trump is doing globalist things with this war.

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where the US basically is NATO and all the other "allies" get our protection for effectively nothing.

What does protection have to do with the US starting a war and then passing off the costs of the chaos this war creates onto others?

If Europe becomes closer with China, China will just supplant the US in this regard. We lose allies and strengthen China for, what, exactly?

*ETA: to add more layers to the "globalist" angle. This also sets up China and Iran, 2 of the 3 largest anti-globalist states, to become closer.
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 10:27 am
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68532 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:29 am to
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If Europe becomes closer with China, China will just supplant the US in this regard.

Now this is the dumbest thing I've read all day. Congrats.
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
2052 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:30 am to
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This should inspire the Iranian to rise up against a brutal regime knowing America and Israel will be riding sidecar with them.


The only real question mark at this point is when and how we secure or destroy the remaining refined uranium.

I would love it if we were able to secure a transaction without a ground or airborne operation.

But under no circumstances should we pull and run without that objective being completed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477259 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:31 am to
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Now this is the dumbest thing I've read all day.

Why, exactly?

International war isn't that common. Europe is a valuable market and trading partner, hence why China has welcomed them with open arms due to other silly trump policies (tariffs) that irrationally target and ostracize our allies. Alienating them further just makes it more likely they become closer with China.

That's not good for the US and it's great for China. And if they're close to China, nobody is going to threaten them or they'll face China's response.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23044 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:33 am to
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Now this is the dumbest thing I've read all day. Congrats.


How is he wrong? The entire point of US hegemony is to eat up space that would otherwise be filled by China or, to a lesser extent, Russia. Cutting off the Europeans doesn't make that space stop existing. It creates an opening.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68532 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:37 am to
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It creates an opening.


If Europe allies with Russia or China, they were never really on the side of western values anyway. Could it happen as those countries get taken over by non-natives? Sure. Right now? No.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477259 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:40 am to
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If Europe allies with Russia or China, they were never really on the side of western values anyway.



We're talking more trade than anything here.

If they're getting a better, more stable (important with Trump) offer form China, how is that "not western values"? Hell, that's Trumpian decision-making.

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Could it happen as those countries get taken over by non-natives? Sure. Right now? No.

Demographics has nothing to do with this discussion.

In Trump's second admin, he's intentionally alienating our closest and most important economic allies. Starting this war and leaving them to pay the economic costs would just be another feather in that cap.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68532 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:41 am to
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SlowFlowPro

No one's talking to you anymore. Run along.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23044 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:42 am to
I'm picturing some baw from Springfield whipping the piss out of his girlfriend while telling her "you caint leave me! I'm the best you'll ever have! If you go and leave you never was with me to begin with!"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477259 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:43 am to
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No one's talking to you anymore.




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Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro


Failure is your currency, TPK
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477259 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:44 am to
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I'm picturing some baw from Springfield whipping the piss out of his girlfriend while telling her "you caint leave me! I'm the best you'll ever have! If you go and leave you never was with me to begin with!"


The growing split in the educated and uneducated MAGA/AF factions has been fascinating to watch develop, but that's more applicable in other discussions.

Although I do think muh fight is a larger identification point for more lower SES MAGA types, and they're wanting a full on war.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139071 posts
Posted on 3/31/26 at 10:45 am to
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then passing off the costs of the chaos this war creates onto others?

Again, this take is naïve. The "chaos" was always going to come. It was just a matter of whether it occurred on a Iran's timeline or not.
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