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re: Trump Says Ukraine is Losing - But That’s Not the Situation on the Ground

Posted on 12/12/25 at 10:34 am to
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85626 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 10:34 am to
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Then it makes sense they’re on the front lines, where this report is coming from.



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Not from Trump’s advisors who want Russia to win.
God dam you are truly retarded.

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Not from politicians who want a quick victory to try and justify a peace prize.

If Drum[pf wanted a quick victory he wouldn't be arming these stupid frickers.

You drool when you think real hard don't you?
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
872 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 10:34 am to
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President Bone Spurs, a lifelong real estate agent, supposedly knows more about the true state of the front lines than a Ukrainian Major who has been doing the fighting?




I’m as critical of Trump as anyone when he deserves it and will continue to be, but this is just dumb.

What was your MOS? You sound extremely experienced.
This post was edited on 12/12/25 at 10:35 am
Posted by bamalee
Member since Jan 2009
1270 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 10:35 am to
They were never Ukraine's Nukes, they were Russia's or the USSR's. Russia had the lanch codes, Ukriaine had nothing. They did not even no how to maintain them. That talking point is such BS
This post was edited on 12/12/25 at 10:37 am
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87826 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 10:36 am to
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What was your MOS?


That twat is furiously googling right now to see what an MOS is.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
872 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 10:37 am to
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That twat is furiously googling right now to see what an MOS is.


Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85626 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 10:38 am to
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That twat is furiously googling right now to see what an MOS is.

Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
1245 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 10:40 am to
Ukraine is losing the war by just about every metric that matters.

Lost a lot of territory - check
Lost most of their troops - check
In a war with a much larger nation with a much larger pool of conscripts - check

Anyone that says Ukraine is winning is just deluded. Baghdad bob style.
Posted by FlySaint
FL Panhandle
Member since May 2018
2364 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 10:43 am to
A lot of preposterous statements in these few sentences.

A battalion cleaning symbols off the battlefield does not equate to winning. It indicates a static situation. A static line could be the result of two equally matched foes, OR one side has not chosen to use superior resources YET.

And the if recruitment can succeed might be the biggest and most ludicrous IF ever on the internet.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87826 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 10:48 am to
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And the if recruitment can succeed might be the biggest and most ludicrous IF ever on the internet.


He's too stupid to understand: there is no more recruitment. There is only conscription. And the pool of conscriptees is rapidly wearing thin.
This post was edited on 12/12/25 at 10:49 am
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5727 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 11:37 am to
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Ukraine is going to win this war, with or without US support.

If they are going to win regardless, without the US spending hundreds of billions, then remind us again why we shouldn't drastically scale back our financial support and save all that money?


Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16729 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 11:49 am to
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Why doesn’t mighty Mother Russia just end the war?


Because this is how Russia fights wars. They keep sending troops into the meat grinder. Ukraine will run out of citizens before Russia. From Napoleon to Hitler, this is Russias gameplan.

Without direct involvement of western nations Ukraine does not stand a chance. Russia will just continue to bleed them dry.

I do not support involving ourselves in this war in any way, including sending them arms and support. Ukraine is (and has been for decades) one of the most corrupt countries on the planet. Hopefully one day its people will rise up and hang Z from a lamp post and this horrible war will end.
Posted by Judnnc
Member since Jun 2025
289 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 11:54 am to
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Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16439 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 12:47 pm to
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More proof Cult 45 is robbing adults of their critical thinking abilities.


It should hurt to be this stupid.

Ok. Let’s play. Show us exactly what Ukrainian advancement has taken place to show they are “winning”.
Posted by RED DAWN REDUX
Member since Aug 2021
197 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 2:09 pm to
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There is only conscription. And the pool of conscriptees is rapidly wearing thin


The word conscription in the broadest sense but more true is kidnapping.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
11549 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 2:19 pm to
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If Ukraine can reconstitute their reserves through recruitment

Why don’t you and your friends go join the reserves and make your TDS fever dream of defeated Trump’s peace plan a reality.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87826 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 2:20 pm to
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Ok. Let’s play. Show us exactly what Ukrainian advancement has taken place to show they are “winning”.


A uKrAnIaN mAjOr SaId So
Posted by CapnKangaroo
Member since Dec 2025
484 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 2:21 pm to
Isn’t Ukraine pretty much out of fighting aged men?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13722 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:07 pm to
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front lines, where this report is coming from


Oh, so he's got situational awareness of what is going on 50km away? The supply situation? People directly in the shite don't have perspective precisely because they're too close to the action.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26370 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:02 pm to
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While Putin may be a dictator, he hasn't sold out his country nor his people.


You serious? Yes, he has. That is why he canceled elections. Because the people in Ukraine want to be rid of him and his war with Russia. The have seen the corruption exposed. Have you?
Posted by nick__21
Member since Jan 2020
375 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 4:05 pm to
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Why didn’t they take Kyiv in 3 days like they were originally instructed in 2022?


Because they had western intelligence and weapons. It also shows Russia is a joke compared to the USA but a big problem for the europoors.
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