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re: US Marines to deploy in Chicago

Posted by CapnKangaroo on 12/26/25 at 3:33 pm to
I’m trying to figure out where you stand on the issue

re: US Marines to deploy in Chicago

Posted by CapnKangaroo on 12/26/25 at 3:30 pm to
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Why would they do anything different in Chiraq?
DC is federal jurisdiction. I’m personally not a huge fan of having a large military presence on the streets there but I can’t really argue its legality. So are you saying that Marines are going to be walking down the streets in Chicago getting shot in the neck?

re: US Marines to deploy in Chicago

Posted by CapnKangaroo on 12/26/25 at 3:27 pm to
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don't think there is anything else except walking streets and getting shot in the neck.


Did I miss that happening in Chicago?

re: US Marines to deploy in Chicago

Posted by CapnKangaroo on 12/26/25 at 3:22 pm to
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For the most part isn't that exactly what they are doing?


For the most part? What’s the other part?

Is there a press release stating the mission scope of the federal forces in Chicago?

re: US Marines to deploy in Chicago

Posted by CapnKangaroo on 12/26/25 at 3:19 pm to
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Operational roles such as?


Guarding federal buildings, assisting ICE and CBP in immigration enforcement. These are the ones I would support.

Anything else I’m opposed to.

re: US Marines to deploy in Chicago

Posted by CapnKangaroo on 12/26/25 at 3:13 pm to
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Real discussion on what?


On the role of federal troops swing deployed across the United States in operational roles.

re: US Marines to deploy in Chicago

Posted by CapnKangaroo on 12/26/25 at 3:11 pm to
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Sarcasm is hard Even the Alaskan retard could recognize it


It’s hard to tell around here because there literally was a guy saying it would be a good idea to have troops on every corner.

So maybe everyone should just say they’re against having federal troops policing our cities and then we can have a real discussion.

re: US Marines to deploy in Chicago

Posted by CapnKangaroo on 12/26/25 at 3:07 pm to
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Lol ok chief I will search them out
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Although I'd like to see a few tanks rumbling through the south side of Chicago.


There ya go

re: US Marines to deploy in Chicago

Posted by CapnKangaroo on 12/26/25 at 3:04 pm to
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Lol they aren't going to take out gangbangers period.


Then you should be responding to the posters in this thread that want that. Not me
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I don’t think a reasonable or rational discussion can even be had on the subject as long as some participants in the conversation continue to refuse to accept that the true and actual suggestion is that a limited federal presence/effort be directed at a specific objective, one that must be extreme enough to warrant such, and lastly that a predetermined definition of “success” be established. What that all means is there is no “marine on every corner,” wherever they please throughout the entire country even if there be no apparent need at all. That idea of the concept is imagination gone haywire. And apparently those so vocally and vehemently outraged over any such idea would have to say that in a situation such as a New Orleans in the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, the unbridled lawlessness that was not otherwise going to be gotten under control, federal assistance along these same lines was an “un-American” travesty as well. I didn’t see military personnel stick around to present day. Those aren’t difficult thoughts.


Are we comparing post Katrina lawlessness high crime cities today? No reasonable and rational person would.

Are we saying that the sole mission of federal troops would be to secure federal property in high property areas? Because if so then you should tell that to the MANY posters in this thread and other threads that the Marines won’t be policing common crime and taking out gangbangers.

re: US Marines to deploy in Chicago

Posted by CapnKangaroo on 12/26/25 at 2:50 pm to
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Well that's what some are doing versus terrorizing citizens.


Maybe so. But many in this thread want way more than that. And that’s what this discussion has been about.

Also seems like a waste of highly trained US Marines to be guarding random low level government buildings if I’m being honest. Just federalize the national guard and use them if that’s all that’s needed.

re: US Marines to deploy in Chicago

Posted by CapnKangaroo on 12/26/25 at 2:49 pm to
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How about protecting federal buildings?


Sure. It’s the federal governments job to secure and protect federal property.

But that’s not what this discussion has really been about.

re: US Marines to deploy in Chicago

Posted by CapnKangaroo on 12/26/25 at 2:43 pm to
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How about assisting?


Also UnAmerican. Pretty sure our founders were against having a standing army for just that reason. Obviously that’s out the window now.

But as I’ve said before I’d be okay with troops assisting ICE and CBP in immigration enforcement in sanctuary cities that refuse to follow federal laws.
My opinion is that having the US military combating crime in local cities in UnAmerican
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And you honestly believe that’s what people, rational people, are talking about here? That’s certainly the easiest and most simplistic way to bounce the ball back into the other person’s court, but it’s not a rational thought process.


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there should be US Marines on every street corner, gas station and classroom to protect every citizen from potential violence.


Would this be a bad thing?

re: US Marines to deploy in Chicago

Posted by CapnKangaroo on 12/26/25 at 2:28 pm to
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fricking Marines everywhere!!!!! Shooting American peeps! Martial law!!!!


There are literally people in this thread begging for this exact thing to happen.

re: US Marines to deploy in Chicago

Posted by CapnKangaroo on 12/26/25 at 2:20 pm to
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Again, I'll explain for like the third time now, no, I don't want this to happen. I just understand it was foretold 7 fricking years ago and have been warning people about it for that entire time while your retarded arse insisted it would never happen. So no, it isn't cool, but it's fricking happening just like we told you it would. It is apparently necessary and I can see why they've determine that. I don't like it, but that's the way the ball lies, dipshit. Deal with it.


I don’t know whatever fricking prophecy you heard 7 years ago is and I don’t care. As far as I’m concerned anyone who wants the military running around the country policing everyone is not a real American. You can go to Mexico and Guatemala with all the illegals as far as I’m concerned. Or move to the UK or Australia so daddy can police you harder.
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That may strike you as cheesy, but those pursuits are sorta the cornerstone of the “American experiment,” are they not?


There’s nothing “American” about having federal troops patrolling our cities. There is no constitutional right to live in a crime free country.
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Those positions are not all decided by vote. BTW, the Presidential position is. ...and he has authority to send in the troops.


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There's definitely areas that need a far heavier police presence than other areas.
Agreed. I wish local municipalities would do some heavier policing in high crime areas.

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There's several big cities that should be on total lock down.


Wait, I thought we wanted the troops there to protect constitutional rights.

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It would have to be examined in a case by case/city by city basis.


The voters do this every time they vote for mayors, sheriffs, DAs, judges and city councilmen.
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These baws arent gun owners.


They may be. But it’s more of fashion statement for them most likely. They’re clearly so afraid of their own shadow that they need the Marines to keep them safe on their way to work.

re: US Marines to deploy in Chicago

Posted by CapnKangaroo on 12/26/25 at 2:04 pm to
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Supporting just like they did in Katrina. Dgaf


So confiscating arms from law abiding citizens and trampling all over constitutional rights. Got it

re: US Marines to deploy in Chicago

Posted by CapnKangaroo on 12/26/25 at 2:01 pm to
I can’t believe I’m hearing so many so called conservatives clamor for federal troops to enforce common local laws.

re: US Marines to deploy in Chicago

Posted by CapnKangaroo on 12/26/25 at 1:58 pm to
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Nobody is living in a police state


What would you call a place that has armed troops all over the place? Because that’s the person who I responding to is suggesting.
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Would this be a bad thing?


I personally don’t want to live in a police state.

But you do you. Maybe while the jar heads are at it they can start arresting people for mean posts online too.
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The Constitution protects your right to live (not be arbitrarily killed) and the liberty to pursue a life. Stay out of this one. It's confusing when dealing with more than two morons.


Well that metric there should be US Marines on every street corner, gas station and classroom to protect every citizen from potential violence.
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Forces can be used to suppress violence or conspiracies that deprive inhabitants of their constitutional rights when a state is unable or unwilling to act.


What constitutional rights are being deprived?
I’d support federal troops assisting ICE in enforcing federal immigration laws in sanctuary cities. But not common police work.
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Brits (Nigeria) and France (Chad) are likely participating to a limited degree.


France has been kicked out of or withdrawn their military from most of the francophone countries in West Africa. The Brits really don’t have the capability to conduct meaningful operations that far from their home turf, at least not with our help. There may have been some peripheral international support but likely nothing significant.
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Well, using your logic, gangbangers are the main opponents of climate change. Now, it's all fixed. I'm sure you support Trump now!


WTF are you talking about?
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The premise for this thread is quite inaccurate and possibly misleading. The question should be why do so many state and local government authorities willfully oppose the law. In nearly every major city in blue states, both local leaders and even statewide officials are actively opposing the enforcement of federal law. They're even trying to keep federal officials from protecting federal government buildings! The Trump administration is taking great efforts to follow the law, unlike the state and local officials opposing them. It has been decided through the court system that the military should be used before federalizing the national guard. So be it. ?? BOOM MAGA MAGA MAGA BOOM ??


Then why is everyone in this thread yammering on about having the Marines go hunt gangbangers in the Chicago ghettos?