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re: Trump says those who want to talk about "Epstein hoax" are "stupid people"

Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:08 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21881 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

You ain’t getting no three words worth of answers from me on such involved and complex matters. That’s the basis of my not assigning your answers any credibility - precisely because you think it’s possible to answer questions like that with a single word. I wouldn’t feel very good about myself if I were to suddenly believe that was acceptable.

And don’t call my shite word salad just because you don’t know how to use your words. If you had any in the bank to use in the first place.

I won't call it word vomit because I like you, davy. But you definitely obfuscated. You posted a hundred words and not a single one addressed the point of the matter.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35156 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

It’s almost getting sad at this point

It’s sad alright. Because he ain’t wrong.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35156 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:11 pm to
Are you illiterate? I explained to you in simple terms why I’m not going to say a simple “yes” or a simple “no” to any of those questions, because only a fool would think satisfactory.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35156 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:13 pm to
Ok, I guess I should’ve simplified it to …..


You have no idea what you’re doing or talking about if you think any of those three questions could be answered with a yes or no.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21881 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

Ok, I guess I should’ve simplified it to …..


You have no idea what you’re doing or talking about if you think any of those three questions could be answered with a yes or no.

I don't care about yes/no or how many words you use. I'm curious about how you rationalize your position on this DT/Epstein file matter, when this is Trump's own explanation (paraphrasing from AB's post):

- Trump claims that Obama/Biden and their administration altered evidence in regards to Epstein, then in the next breath says we should drop the subject and anybody that doesn't is stupid.

Don't you think there are some weighty questions that need to be answered here?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36496 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:18 pm to
quote:

explained to you in simple terms why I’m not going to say a simple “yes” or a simple “no” to any of those questions, because only a fool would think satisfactory.



What is complex about Donald Trumps claims? It’s quite straightforward


Feel free to write your novel about Trumps 1000 character Truth social post.

Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
1645 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

In what world is the appropriate response to falsification of evidence regarding a child pedophile ring “shut up about it?


In the world where the one making those accusations has exactly zero evidence for it.
Posted by Warrior Court
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2022
3711 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:21 pm to
Imagine voting for a pedophile - good luck with your life.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36496 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:30 pm to
Continue to post claiming your intellectual superiority while simultaneously being completely unable to issue a rebuttal.



An intellectual titan let me tell you.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20707 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:41 pm to
quote:

That's the liberals fantasy. What the rest of us who are critical of Trump on this matter think is DT is just doing the "establishment" thing and covering for a powerful something - like the CIA or Mossad, for example.

It’s common knowledge it was an intel op. It’s been outlined in detail all over the internet.

Benny Johnson ran a podcast the other day where Epstein admitted it.

The FL prosecutor on the state case was told flat out he was an intel asset which is why that case got dropped.

The issue isn’t just that the deep state trafficked poor American girls to get raped all over the world.

It’s that they got caught red handed, killed off the guy, destroyed the evidence and Trump who ran on cleaning all of this mess up is now telling his base we’re crazy people for even mentioning all the evidence and demanding accountability with exactly zero deep state people indicted for any of their myriad of crimes and corruption.

When you’ve lost Steve Bannon and and General Flynn you’ve truly lost the plot.

Unfortunately all we can do is speculate as to why and hope someone gets him back on track because his response to this is legitimately derailing his entire 2nd term and we haven’t even hit midterms.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35156 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:42 pm to
I started out as respectful as it can get on this forum with you, then what did you do? You made an unsolicited comment about me eating dog shite. Neither have I acted in any arrogant manner involving myself declaring intellectual superiority over you or anyone else. In fact, that originated with YOU being offensive towards me simply being verbose in many of my responses. Did I eventually respond in kind to your insults towards me, O guess I’m guilty as charged on that. Ironically, I do fault myself for responding in kind at all, I try not to do it. If I’m confident in a response, I typically would see no need for snark on my part.

Which brings me to the issue of an answer to your questions/challenges at all: It’s become crystal clear to me that you probably aren’t what I’m looking for in a debate partner. And I can’t imagine anyone taking that as some sort of acknowledgment that I don’t have any answer(s). I don’t think anyone would accuse me of lacking an answer or response at any time, if I choose to do so of course.

So I guess come back with another insult of some sort.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23670 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:46 pm to
quote:


It definitely isn’t “most” of his voters lol it’s a group of obsessed malcontents


Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36496 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:46 pm to
quote:

You made an unsolicited comment about me eating dog shite.



No. I said you sniff your own farts



That was after multiple responses failing to respond to the actual question.
Also after you said this

quote:

That’s either a sadly ill conceived thought, or it’s a lie. Either way, it’s not helping your case for being correct about anything at all, in my view anyway. When you say something like that it only makes me feel more justified in discounting your assertions and statements.



But you were oh so respectful and not seething with condescension the whole time

quote:

I started out as respectful as it can get on this forum with you, then what did you do? You made an unsolicited comment about me eating dog shite. Neither have I acted in any arrogant manner involving myself declaring intellectual superiority over you or anyone else. In fact, that originated with YOU being offensive towards me simply being verbose in many of my responses. Did I eventually respond in kind to your insults towards me, O guess I’m guilty as charged on that. Ironically, I do fault myself for responding in kind at all, I try not to do it. If I’m confident in a response, I typically would see no need for snark on my part.

Which brings me to the issue of an answer to your questions/challenges at all: It’s become crystal clear to me that you probably aren’t what I’m looking for in a debate partner. And I can’t imagine anyone taking that as some sort of acknowledgment that I don’t have any answer(s). I don’t think anyone would accuse me of lacking an answer or response at any time, if I choose to do so of course.

So I guess come back with another insult of some sort.





Still can’t rebut it.




This is what you always do. Filibuster and obfuscate.


Can never address the issue.

This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 6:52 pm
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
14614 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:52 pm to
He is dying on this hill. Amazing. I am a huge Trump supporter
, but I am not a blind follower, and his stance on this concerns me tremendously....
Don't call out your base and call them names because they don't blindly fall in line with your about face on am issue that he and his son both pushed..
This behavior is stupid on his part and I don't think he even knows just how many of his supporters that he is calling out and telling to quit following him....
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26321 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 7:01 pm to
Well he's stupid then for talking about releasing the files and applauding dumbass Bondi for attention-whoring the whole thing and getting people all focused on it. If he had never mentioned it and she had never done that, people wouldn't even be talking about it right now like this. And he keeps talking, making it bigger.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35156 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 7:02 pm to
Still insisting on being offensive towards me I see. Even after I tried to taper down the debate and donate you a win. I guess you insist on forcing the issue. Look, you can look at my history. There is an endless supply of rebuttal and addressing of issues and non-obfuscation. And with people that have a much brighter disposition than you. I have no issues in most instances. So don’t take any future lack of response to you as a lack of ability and thoughts to rebut. Take it as I don’t believe you’re a worthy opponent. Both style and substance.

Now, again, you can go away with a perceived win, or you can keep ramming your head into a cinder block wall for no good reason. Your choice.
Posted by Richard Dangler
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2015
824 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 7:03 pm to
A lot of MAGA are the ones that are the most pissed about it.
Posted by Richard Dangler
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2015
824 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 7:05 pm to
I post at the place that is considered the successor to r/the_donald after it was banned from reddit and panican is the main one used over there.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36496 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 7:07 pm to



quote:

Still insisting on being offensive towards me I see. Even after I tried to taper down the debate and donate you a win. I guess you insist on forcing the issue. Look, you can look at my history. There is an endless supply of rebuttal and addressing of issues and non-obfuscation. And with people that have a much brighter disposition than you. I have no issues in most instances. So don’t take any future lack of response to you as a lack of ability and thoughts to rebut. Take it as I don’t believe you’re a worthy opponent. Both style and substance.






I told you write your novel. David_DJS asked you to write your novel. It was obvious to him you ignored filibustered and obfuscated.



You can’t bear to call Trump a liar but also think to highly of yourself to present a dumb argument thus you have to ignore the subject.


Posted by lsufan31
MS
Member since Mar 2013
2209 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 7:08 pm to
I think you’re wrong, there are plenty of non-qanon folks that are just simply against pedos trafficking young girls.
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