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re: Trump says that federal workers who don't want to work in the office will be fired

Posted on 12/17/24 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 2:27 pm to
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Make the government lean, efficient and based on merit

And once it's there, we can talk about WFH and accommodating the work-life needs of good federal employees IMO.

Just like in the private sector, if you can manage WFH employees, you will ultimately have more profits due to eliminating the need for commercial real estate.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19386 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 2:29 pm to
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Just like in the private sector, if you can manage WFH employees, you will ultimately have more profits due to eliminating the need for commercial real estate.

Don't bring logic into this thread. The people bitching about WFH are the same ones who tell cops "I pay your salary"
This post was edited on 12/17/24 at 2:34 pm
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41443 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 2:30 pm to
How’s this going to play out with that deal being signed? The article I read yesterday on it, from a left wing side, made it sound like Trump couldn’t do anything about it.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
1-866-DHS-2-ICE
Member since Aug 2014
11380 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 2:31 pm to
I doubt he can.

The AFGE is stupid powerful. That behemoth needs dismantled.
Posted by Lizardman2
Member since Jan 2024
2445 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 2:32 pm to
Less than 3% of jobs in the market even offer hybrid schedules to date. I am not a fan of a hybrid or work from home schedule. I think there is a loss of congruency and synergy within the work culture and dynamic as a result of "absence". Particularly within the C-suite level.

Personally, my home is my refuge and not a space for the energy that is derived from work.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26924 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 2:33 pm to
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if you can manage WFH employees


That's the issue with federal employees; you can't get rid of them. Certainly not like you can in the private sector.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19386 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 2:42 pm to
Also the percentage of gov employees is actually smaller than it was in 1970 relative to population and has remained steady.

It's not the employees. It's the outrageous budgets that Congress oversees. They have a spending problem. Getting rid of employees will not change that.

The spending under Trump last time was just as bad. They are making you take your eye off the ball.
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
12379 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 2:44 pm to
Most work from home telework jobs require at least 2 days a pay period in the office; unless a reasonable accommodation if could be permanent.
This post was edited on 12/17/24 at 2:46 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26924 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 2:45 pm to
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The spending under Trump last time was just as bad.


Yeah, I know.

I thought we were talking about government employees working from home.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36393 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 3:27 pm to
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That's the issue with federal employees; you can't get rid of them.

This is a bigger issue than WFH. If you have useless workers WFH, they will be just as useless in an office. And they will cost more.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34016 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 3:33 pm to
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My counter to this is that everyone on here is saying these are "cake jobs". If the job is really as good as people think then going back in will not make these people quit. It has to be one or the other.


Whether they are cake or not is irrelevant. Many of them are unnecessary and thus need to be eliminated. This will hopefully cause many of them to quit or be fired.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71643 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 3:38 pm to
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Ian Jaeger

This dude may be the worst of the copy/paste hacks.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24838 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 3:43 pm to
See how reports. Those that do not report, simply do not fire them, eliminate the position they occupy, give severance and say bye.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 3:47 pm to
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LegendInMyMind


Why are you always hating people on X who have a significant following? Your name "LegendInMyMind" is perfect for you. A nobody criticizing someone that has 221k followers.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71643 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 3:50 pm to
Because, John, all they do is rip off people with actual sources and retards like you eat it up. You're too stupid to see a problem with that, though, boy.

quote:

someone that has 221k followers.

He's a "body builder" and "political commentator" who does absolutely nothing. He doesn't even provide "commentary", you dolt!
This post was edited on 12/17/24 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26924 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 3:51 pm to
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This is a bigger issue than WFH.


Sure it is, but it’s still a big part of WFH. I was responding to a post about managing employees. If you have a marginal employee, is he easier to manage when he’s at home or when he’s down the hall?
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 3:53 pm to
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A nobody criticizing someone that has 221k followers


Worth on life does not equate to number of followers. Exhibit A, the Kardashians. You've got some growing up to do.

Also, mist of us realize they post BS to get views. They are not legit sources. They just want the money.

It will make sense to you someday.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71643 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 3:54 pm to
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Also, mist of us realize they post BS to get views. They are not legit sources. They just want the money.

Like the Charlie Kirk fan account that many here have been fooled by?
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 3:55 pm to
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Because, John, all they do is rip off people with actual sources 


I don't even follow this guy. But you don't get 221k followers without producing content people like. So why do you care so much? It just comes off as you being a jealous prick.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71643 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 3:57 pm to
For the love of all that is good and kind, John, PLEASE go be stupid somewhere else.
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