re: Trump Says He Never Promised No New Wars, and Defends Compensation Fund

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Of course he didn’t say anything about no new wars. People just make things up. He wouldn’t lie!

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now do Biden with "the border is closed and secure"

now do Biden with "inflation is transitory. It has peaked (in nov 2021) and will be going down quickly"

Now do Biden with "if you get the jab you can't get Covid"

otherwise, STFU

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He definitely didn't stop one

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- Trump and Paul are the only 2 leaders in Washington openly discuss ending wars or not starting new ones

Trump hates this crap

but you know what?

Trump didn't put 800 Military bases around the world ....

our goverment machine did that...

so when you are in every corner of the world, well, conflicts end up on the extended porch you built

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Trump didn't put 800 Military bases around the world ....

our goverment machine did that...

so when you are in every corner of the world, well, conflicts end up on the extended porch you built

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I agree. Iran could have been avoided though. He really stepped in it there and it will cause more chaos in the region.

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It’s the but but but whataboutism npcs fall back on when they can’t justify Trump’s dumbassery

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Just think how much worse things would be with Kamala!

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Completely false BS for rubes

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The rubes need to give the traitorous idiots a history lesson.

We have been at war with Iran since 1979 when they took our embassy personel hostage.

Here are portions of an article from The Hill:

by Steve Joachim - 03/03/26 2:36 PM ET


October 1983

Operatives of the Iran-backed Hezbollah drive a truck bomb at a Marine compound in Beirut, killing 220 U.S. Marines and 21 other service personnel.

December 1983

Hezbollah operatives drive an explosives-filled dump truck through the gates of the U.S. Embassy in Kuwait City. No Americans are harmed.

March 1984

Terrorists kidnap CIA station chief William Buckley in Beirut, subsequently torturing and ultimately killing him in 1985. Islamic Jihad claims responsibility.

December 1984

Hezbollah terrorists hijack Kuwait Airways Flight 221 on its way from Kuwait to Pakistan and divert it to Tehran, killing two American officials from the U.S. Agency for International Development.

June 1985

Hezbollah terrorists hijack TWA Flight 847 en route from Athens to Rome and kill a U.S. Navy diver.

July 1989

Hezbollah operatives kill U.S. Marine Corps Col. William Higgins after kidnapping him the previous year while on a United Nations peacekeeping mission in southern Lebanon.


June 1996

A truck carrying 5,000 pounds of explosives blows up the Khobar Towers, a U.S. Air Force housing complex in the Saudi Arabian town of Khobar. Nineteen Americans die and some 500 people are injured. The Iran-backed Hezbollah Al Hijaz, a terrorist group in Saudi Arabia, is deemed responsible.


August 1998

With the assistance of Hezbollah, al Qaeda suicide bombers almost simultaneously blow up the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224 people, including 12 Americans, and wounding ....

July 2002

A bomb planted by a Hamas terrorist kills five Americans at Jerusalem’s Hebrew University, killing five American students, including an American-Israeli dual citizen and an American....

October 2003

Terrorists from the Iran-backed Popular Resistance Committees kill three U.S. diplomatic personnel in a bombing in Gaza.

2003-2011

Iranian-backed militias kill at least 603 U.S. troops in Iraq, according to the Pentagon. Iranian training and material support for Iraqi militias during the surge greatly increased the difficulty of U.S. forces to combat the insurgency and included some of the deadliest weapons used against American troops, including explosively formed penetrators (EFPs) and improvised explosive devices (IEDs).


August 2006

Hezbollah fighters kill American citizen Michael Levin

January 2007

Twelve men affiliated with the Quds Force of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) disguised themselves as U.S. soldiers, entered the Provincial Joint Coordination Center in the Iraqi city of Karbala, killed five U.S. soldiers, and wounded....


October 2015

Hamas terrorists kill an American citizen and his wife, residents of the West Bank community of Neria, in their car in a drive-by shooting.

December 2019

Rockets fired by Kataib Hezbollah, an Iran-backed militia, kills an American security contractor and wounds several U.S. service members and Iraqi personnel at the K1 military base in the Iraqi city of Kirkuk.

January 2020

A direct Iranian ballistic missile attack against the Ain al-Asad airbase in Iraq causes more than 100 U.S. troops to suffer traumatic brain injuries.

March 2020

The family of former FBI agent Robert Levinson, who disappeared in Iran in 2007, announces that he likely died in an Iranian prison at an unknown date.

September 2020

U.S. intelligence reports indicate that Iran is weighing a plot to assassinate U.S. Ambassador to South Africa Lana Marks.

February 2021

An rocket fired by an Iran-backed militia at coalition forces in the Iraqi city of Erbil wounds a U.S. service member and four U.S. civilian contractors.

July 2021

Iranian-backed militias conduct at least three rocket and drone attacks against U.S. forces in 24 hours in Iraq and Syria, wounding two U.S. service members.


An Iranian rocket attack kills an American citizen in Iraqi Kurdistan.

November 2022

A captain in Iran’s IRGC orchestrates the killing of an American citizen living in Baghdad who worked at an English language institute.

March 2023

An Iranian drone kills an American contractor and wounds five service members and another contractor when it strikes a coalition base near the Syrian city of Hasakah.

October 7, 2023

Hamas kills at least 48 Americans and kidnaps at least 12 Americans in a massacre of 1,200 people in southern Israel.

December 2023

A drone attack conducted by an Iranian-backed Iraqi militia against U.S. forces in Erbil wounds three American soldiers, including one critically injured with shrapnel to the head that placed him in a coma.

January 2024

A drone launched by Kataib Hezbollah kills three U.S. soldiers at a U.S. military base in Jordan and wounded more than 40 other service members.

October 2024

Iran executes German-Iranian national and U.S. permanent resident Jamshid Sharmahd on fraudulent terrorism charges.

November 2024

A report released by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies indicates that Iran and its proxies have conducted more than 180 attacks against U.S. forces in the Middle East between October 17, 2023, and November 19, 2024, resulting in more than 180 wounded and three killed U.S. service members.

November 2024

The U.S. Department of Justice announces charges against an Iranian national and two American accomplices for plotting to assassinate President Trump.

March 2025

A U.S. jury convicts two agents of Iran for plotting to assassinate Iranian-American journalist Masih Alinejad in New York in 2022.

June 2025

At least three U.S. bases in Syria and two U.S. bases in Iraq are attacked with missiles or drones, likely by Iranian-backed militias.




I deleted at least twenty incidents where Americans were killed by IRGC agents so the information would be short enough to post.

Only a fool could look at this and say we have not been at war with Iran.

It is past time to put an end to the IRGC regime that terrorizes its own people, the Middle East and Americans across large parts of the world.

It’s actually amazing the mental gymnastics to support this war with Iran. I’m noticing a shift though, in real life and this board, even the most staunch Trump supporters are admitting this was a mistake and people are starting to see that this is not the only broken promise of what could have been the best 4 year term ever.

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But why?

Is Biden the standard by which presidents are measured?

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because the position that Trump said "no new forever wars" is being called a "lie" by the person I responded to.

Using that standard every President ever has "lied". And every douchebag poster like the one I responded to (and apparently you) want to use the but but he said!!!!!! "standard" only when it fits your narrative.

It's a weak gotcha position to begin with that deserves a weak gotcha comparison response.

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Just think how much worse things would be with Kamala! 

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Good point. We'd probably be dealing with inflation and stuck in some stupid war in the Middle East.

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And every douchebag poster like the one I responded to (and apparently you) want to use the but but he said!!!!!! "standard" only when it fits your narrative.

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Justify this assertion logically. Provide examples.

Spoiler alert: you can't.

Stop arguing emotionally.

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Or do you recognize that
1) no new forever wars is not the same as no new wars

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The problem with this logic is that we can't tell if a war is a "forever war" or not until it's over. We could be in a long war right now and not know it, just like we were in the opening months of the Second Iraq War, Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc.

This war has already lasted longer than Trump predicted it would, and we have no idea when it's going to end.

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2) President's throughout time have said things/made campaign promises that need to be adjusted over time due to changing circumstances

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Of course, but that's the risk of making bold promises when you're a politician. Just ask George H.W. Bush about "read my lips, no new taxes."

Also, Trump didn't break his promise due to changing circumstances. This is a war of our choosing that's blown up in our faces, so naturally people have little patience for it.

Here's a simple question: Was anyone in America (other than Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin) hoping and praying that we'd be at war with Iran soon in January of this year?