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Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:23 pm to momentoftruth87
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Yeah well go look at your first response and you have a dipshit eating it up. Good job
Bro. You really get emotional about how other people respond? I don't pay attention to TDS responses. I simply posted a video of Trump in his own words saying he "hadn't heard about" about Putin’s Helicopter being attacked by Ukrainian Drones. I am not saying anything bad about Trump. All I am saying is if Trump really was not told about that incident or the fact Ukraine had attacked Moscow for 3 days, then that is incompetence by the people who are supposed to keep Trump updated on these situations. That is a fair assessment by me and you start attacking me because TDS posters are "eating it up"? Like I said, I am not blaming Trump but the people around him should be doing a better job of telling major and significant news about Putin’s Helicopter being attacked by Ukraine. I bet Trump would have picked up the phone and called Putin to see if the report was accurate had he been told about the incident
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:26 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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IF the attack happened without consultation, the US should immediately stop support Ukraine
Correct. That is the point I am trying to make. This is a huge issue if Trump was not notified about this. It's like you can't post reasonable and logical takes around here without being attacked
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:28 pm to John Barron
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This is a huge issue if Trump was not notified about this.
No, it's not. It's not an issue at all. Get over yourself.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:28 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Killing the President or PM of another country is a serious crime.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:35 pm to MikkUGA
It is good that Trump acknowledges in the interview that "Maybe that would be a Reason" for Russia attacking Kiev. I am still shocked that the people around Trump didn't inform him of those Ukrainian Drone attacks. Hopefully after that Interview Trump realizes the Neocons are not keeping him informed on purpose
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:55 pm to John Barron
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Correct. That is the point I am trying to make. This is a huge issue if Trump was not notified about this. It's like you can't post reasonable and logical takes around here without being attacked
Yup. Thanks for posting
I don't understand the lack of curiosity. The truth of this is known to every major intelligence agency in the West, including our own.
One of the reasons I was so happy to have Gabbard appointed is to have transparency. I understand some things cannot be shared with the public for strategic purposes.
This, however, would just be letting the American public in on the truth. We need to know whether we are aiding a military assault that came close to SERIOUSLY amping up the war, and pushing us closer to WWIII.
Of course, it would be just as useful for Gabbard to publish a finding that said: "The reports of Putin being targeted are complete Russian propaganda."
Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:59 pm to John Barron
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It is good that Trump acknowledges in the interview that "Maybe that would be a Reason" for Russia attacking Kiev.
I agree that his spontaneous answer indicates that he was unaware of the ALLEGATIONS (dunno if they're true...but Gabbard does). Best (but still bad) scenario: his intelligence team examined the allegations and thought they were BS.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:03 pm to MajorityWhip
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No, it's not. It's not an issue at all. Get over yourself.
Don't want to be a pain, but do you think it's not an issue because:
1) It's none of Trump's business
Or
2) We have already given Ukraine the green light to use our money, assets, and intelligence to kill Putin?
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:10 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Of course, it would be just as useful for Gabbard to publish a finding that said: "The reports of Putin being targeted are complete Russian propaganda."
I agree. But I also find it interesting that Ukraine attacked Moscow for 3 days with Drones and targeted Civilian Airports and Trump also did not mention any of this. That means he was also not informed about this which means the Neocons have control of the information he is receiving. It has been widely reported about the Ukrainian Drone attacks on Moscow from May 20-22 so that can't be dismissed as Russian Propaganda
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:12 pm to John Barron
Omg he didn't mention it!
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:15 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Don't want to be a pain, but do you think it's not an issue because:
1) It's none of Trump's business
Or
2) We have already given Ukraine the green light to use our money, assets, and intelligence to kill Putin?
Because it is their war, not ours. I prefer Trump to be focused on what is best for the American people, not Puttin's helicopter in regards to a war that they don't want to end and have been given every opportunity to do so. frick them.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:31 pm to MajorityWhip
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Because it is their war, not ours
Correct, But we are still giving aid and weapons so we are still involved.
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I prefer Trump to be focused on what is best for the American people, not Puttin's helicopter
So do I. That is why if Ukraine attacked Putin’s Helicopter we need to pull all aid and military intelligence which we are still providing immediately. That would be what's best for the American people, not to continue enabling a Rat like Zelensky who refuses to recognize Crimea as Russian because he does not want the War to end
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they don't want to end
Incorrect. No NATO, Recognize the 4 oblast that Russia controls the Majority of by 80% or more and Crimea and the War ends. Trump told Zelensky he would have to do this and Zelensky refuses. When you lose the War on the battlefield like Zelensky did you don't make demands on territories you lost 80% or more of. So frick Zelensky and his Globalist POS arse
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:34 pm to MajorityWhip
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Because it is their war, not ours. I prefer Trump to be focused on what is best for the American people, not Puttin's helicopter in regards to a war that they don't want to end and have been given every opportunity to do so. frick them.
Thanks. I think the same thing about it not being our war. Honestly, I am hoping American Intel comes out and says the Ukrainians did target Putin. That would be another opportunity to make a clean break.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:39 pm to John Barron
quote:And who notified YOU about it?
if Trump was not notified about this.
Is President Trump so stupid he can't read news reports?
John Barron's logic:
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:42 pm to MikkUGA
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Killing the President or PM of another country is a serious crime.
Is invading a country and killing scores of thousands of people not?
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:44 pm to John Barron
Whether true or not, it gives the Russians justification to try to assassinate Zelenskyy.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:44 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Without our money, military assets, and training, Ukraine would have already lost this war.
IF the attack on Putin happened, we should have been consulted before hand. If Ukraine kills Putin, I would say that makes WWIII MUCH closer.
IF the attack happened without consultation, the US should immediately stop support for Ukraine.
And Trump's gonna cough up more.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:46 pm to John Barron
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No NATO, Recognize the 4 oblast that Russia controls the Majority of by 80% or more and Crimea and the War ends.
Every day that passes without this agreement adds more unnecessary deaths, expense, AND the possibility that Zelenskyy gets us involved in WWIII.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:52 pm to John Barron
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It is good that Trump acknowledges in the interview that "Maybe that would be a Reason" for Russia attacking Kiev. I am still shocked that the people around Trump didn't inform him of those Ukrainian Drone attacks. Hopefully after that Interview Trump realizes the Neocons are not keeping him informed on purpose
Let's assume for a moment that the reason Trump didn't know about the drone attacks, is because Putin is lying and the attacks didn't happen.
If that's the case, then Trump's advisors and intelligence officers obviously didn't inform him that Putin lied about a drone attack. Which is really just as incompetent.
So to your overall point, had Trump known Putin lied about this, he wouldn't have given such a clueless, dipshitty answer to that question.
Whether Putin is lying or not. Trump is obviously not "in the know".
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