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re: Trump running for President again is going to guarantee a loss

Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22443 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

The only thing that pushed Biden over the top were thousands and thousands of illegitimate votes in Democratic stronghold cities.

What's to prevent this from happening again? If they did it once, they can do it again.
Posted by Tvilletiger
PVB
Member since Oct 2015
5868 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:43 pm to
I was just stating the fact that Trump running has the greatest chance of making Democrats come out to vote. There is no way anyone can argue that. The Republicans can however easily win in my opinion with another choice.
I do not have polling data to post. This is an opinion. One can find polling data to make any argument work.
I am a political science major.
I have worked as a lobbyist.
I have also worked for a United States senator.
So I do think I have a little ability to state an opinion.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93132 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:43 pm to
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I have worked as a lobbyist.
I have also worked for a United States senator.
So I do think I have a little ability to state an opinion


So you are a clown. Thanks for being honest
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135428 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:44 pm to
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Trump running for President again is going to guarantee a loss
Republicans need to go with someone else
Well let's see ... in 2000, Republicans needed to go with McCain if they wanted to win. Instead, W won twice. When McCain finally stepped up he was horrible and got blown off the stage. Then there was Romney, a great moderate candidate until the MSM got him nominated, then suddenly he was Hitler incarnate. Then came Trump. Hillary was going to blow him away. "Worst choice of a nomination by a US political party --- EVER!" But, he won!

So excuse me for telling you to take your "guarantee", and stick it! If Trump steps back, and DeSantis gets the nod, the MSM will act like he is Satan incarnate .... no different than would be the case with Trump.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65130 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:44 pm to
Trumps to lose IMO, his rally’s after this Biden debacle will be even more Epic. He added 12 million votes in his re-election, which was unheard of; the crooks had to shut down all the swing States. He’s going to add more, so if Voting is regulated and he runs again, he’s your president. Look at the MSM messages, “ He must not be allowed to run”, they know…….
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34877 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:44 pm to
“Trump can’t win!”

Geez where have I heard this before.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79936 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

Republicans need to go with someone else. Desantis or whoever. Trump running has the potential to light the fire under the democratic voters and ensure they turn out. I just cannot believe Trump cannot figure out when to say something and when to just kind of see how things go before saying something.


Trump only lost by a very small margin regardless of any voting irregularities.

They would need to massively up their cheating game if they want to overcome the debacle that is President Biden.

Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:45 pm to
quote:


I have worked as a lobbyist.
I have also worked for a United States senator.
I wish Jan 6 was real instead of fake Fed nonsense and I wish they had burned DC to the ground and executed our political establishment publicly
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5653 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

I do think that Desantis would absolutely obliterate Biden in a fair election though.


Do you have any polls to share that show this?




How this works.

Let DeSantis first actually announce he is running. Let them debate side by side during the primary. Then take your poll.

Trump wins "now" based on name recognition only. A lot of voters outside the South have no clue who DeSantis is.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55376 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:47 pm to
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You are going to get a ton of downvotes, but you are right.

Trump can't win.

His fans will say "oh they cheated." OK... so if that's true... they will cheat again.



Laws are being changed to keep that from happening.


quote:

They were only able to cheat because so many soccer moms hated Trump.




This is wrong. Data shows that too.




But hear this... Trump got 15 million more votes than he did in 2016. How much more is that than the last attempted RINO?



So 2 things for you-

1- The Biden admin vs the Trump years is showing the American people what is what. I work with small groups weekly on the ground and you are 100% wrong.

2- Try winning with another Rino without those new 15 million


Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40200 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:47 pm to
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Do you have polling data to back this up?


I do.

It's called "2020 Election Results"
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22443 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

This is an opinion.

Trump lost me when I heard him the other night on Laura Ingraham. With regard to Ukraine, he had the opportunity to say something profound. But he didn't. He said a lot of the things he's been saying forever.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88819 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

quote:
do think that Desantis would absolutely obliterate Biden in a fair election though.



Well so would Drumpf




yup
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55376 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

I am a political science major.




quote:

I have worked as a lobbyist.



No....


quote:

I have also worked for a United States senator.


You don't say!


We now understand everything!


quote:

So I do think I have a little ability to state an opinion.


While you are working for a disconnected US Senator, I'm working with the everyday citizen across the whole of the USA forming small groups that educate and make more small groups.

You are wrong!

Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40200 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

1- The Biden admin vs the Trump years is showing the American people what is what. I work with small groups weekly on the ground and you are 100% wrong.

2- Try winning with another Rino without those new 15 million


This idea that dems and moderates who voted for Biden in 2020, will suddenly show up and vote for Trump in 2024, has absolutely no basis in reality. None.

Let me ask you this:

Do you want to win in 2024, or do you want to show your allegiance to Trump?

You aren't going to get both.

We don't need a RINO to run. We need a smart effective conversataive. Like Desantis.
Posted by Chazreinhold
Utah
Member since Oct 2020
7218 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:53 pm to
By that time II think it will be such a shite show with the Democrats that even the soccer moms will be clamoring to wash Donnie’s feet.

Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
35464 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:54 pm to
watch moar NBC and CNN
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55376 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Trump lost me


Trump never had you. Period. Your posts here really show that
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
7114 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:54 pm to
agree with OP. Trump would just energize the left and give them fodder. I like trump but we need somebody more savvy and who's not going to constantly troll and put his foot in his mouth every other day. get Desantis.
This post was edited on 2/26/22 at 1:56 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55376 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

This idea that dems and moderates who voted for Biden in 2020, will suddenly show up and vote for Trump in 2024, has absolutely no basis in reality. None.


The idea is that data is showing Trump is now the favorite among independents.


quote:

Do you want to win in 2024, or do you want to show your allegiance to Trump?



Should Trump run, he will win in 2024. Period.

The whole "myth" of an allegiance to Trump is a false narrative and you really show yourself and who you are when you do that.

Literally exposed yourself.

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