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re: Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister

Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
4757 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:12 pm to
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That is an accurate description of Rachel Maddow.


Good job. You know so many "dims" on this forums hold Rachel Maddow in such high regard. You are really on message.
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:16 pm to
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"Sources, Methods, or Military operations"


Sources: didn't reveal ally we got intelligence from. Seems likely. Trump doesn't bother with details, likely wouldn't mention where he got it from.

Methods: How they got it...obviously, because it came from an ally.

Military operation: Isn't a military operation.

That is everything they deny. "As reported" simply means if one single detail is missed, that is "false", as in 4 people instead of 3. Such wordsmithing.

What the WaPo report suggests is that the info is regarding something with airlines....which, definitely isn't military. How and who they got info from doesn't seem like Trump's style either.

What they did NOT deny, is that Trump shared classified "code word" info with the Russians. Which is what has been confirmed by multiple outlets.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 8:18 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37391 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:23 pm to
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Trump doesn't bother with details, likely wouldn't mention where he got it from.
Interesting point you bring up. With Trump's normal amount of embellishments you have to wonder how much they believed and how much he seeded it with misinformation.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17812 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:26 pm to
Gotcha, I was just curious because this power is not explicit in the constitution. I guess the ability to declassify information in matters of national security is important for the president to have in order to "uphold and protect" the constitution.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45907 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:31 pm to
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Gotcha, I was just curious because this power is not explicit in the constitution. I guess the ability to declassify information in matters of national security is important for the president to have in order to "uphold and protect" the constitution.


Since when have liberals ever given a shite about what the Constitution says?
Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
4757 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:48 pm to
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Interesting point you bring up. With Trump's normal amount of embellishments you have to wonder how much they believed and how much he seeded it with misinformation.



Oh yeah. I bet Mr. Bean really threw 'em off the scent.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
21014 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:55 pm to
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What they did NOT deny, is that Trump shared classified "code word" info with the Russians. Which is what has been confirmed by multiple outlets.

And yet none of those outlets can either confirm exactly what happened, or a source that will go on the record that it happened.

In other words, pure speculation.
Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
4757 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:38 pm to
Looks like some folks in DC have seen the news:

Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7684 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:40 pm to
if trump reveals any highly classified information, it is by definition not classified.

another obama racist attack!

Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
4757 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:45 pm to
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if trump reveals any highly classified information, it is by definition not classified.

another obama racist attack!




Aha! I knew Obama would be behind Trump disclosing classified information in the Oval Office. Where's the link so I can read up?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62219 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:47 pm to
With all this Russian talk, I'm expecting the left to try and resurrect Joseph McCarthy soon!
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:48 pm to
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Richard Engel?Verified account @RichardEngel 52m52 minutes ago
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Us intel official tells me trump told russians about laptop airline threat. Told it wasnt anything they didnt already know. @washingtonpost


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Richard Engel?Verified account @RichardEngel 49m49 minutes ago
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Us intell official says trump was trying to show russians "how cooperative he wants to be with them" in fight against isis. @washingtonpost


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Richard Engel?Verified account @RichardEngel 36m36 minutes ago
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Us intel official says Trump talked abt isis interest in laptops, which is why laptops of such concern these days. Says not new info
Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
4757 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:51 pm to
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Sentrius


NBC has been officially classified as fake news by the Poliboard so we will unfortunately have to wait for more outlets to confirm.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
21014 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:09 pm to
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NBC has been officially classified as fake news by the Poliboard so we will unfortunately have to wait for more outlets to confirm.
None of them have provided a credible source for their "information"

So by more, you mean at least one.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:17 pm to
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Foy

And after all the work you put into this thread, only to have NBC shoot it down before the stroke of midnight

That's gotta be record time for debunking a MSM fake news story, amirite?
Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
4757 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:20 pm to
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And after all the work you put into this thread, only to have NBC shoot it down before the stroke of midnight

That's gotta be record time for debunking a MSM fake news story, amirite?


The problem with the WaPo story is that they quoted anonymous sources, right?
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:23 pm to
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The problem with the WaPo story is that they quoted anonymous sources, right?

No. They didn't do any investigating.

They jumped at Trump' messing up'. Didn't bother to ask about what. And if they did, didn't bother to research said topic on the Internet to see if it was out there. And if they did, they didn't care, and made an indefensible charge against the president. Just because they could
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55747 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:35 pm to
No, the problem with WaPo is they are printing out right lies. 4 in 1 week
Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
4757 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:36 pm to
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They jumped at Trump' messing up'. Didn't bother to ask about what. And if they did, didn't bother to research said topic on the Internet to see if it was out there. And if they did, they didn't care, and made an indefensible charge against the president. Just because they could



You can't discern that from the article at all. We all know that every media outlet in America has been reporting about a potential laptop ban for a few weeks.

However, the WaPo report infers that details about that attack were revealed to Russia. A lot of intelligence professionals have indicated the specificity of what Trump said could put some of our intelligence sources at risk.

You guys have to read a little bit deeper than you do.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
21014 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:38 pm to
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However, the WaPo report infers that details about that attack were revealed to Russia.
Could you confirm you know what that word means?
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