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re: Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:54 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:54 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
quote:
Laura Ingraham on Twitter: "WH source with direct knowledge just told me @washingtonpost didn't talk to ANY U.S. official at mtg w/ Lavrov. "It's Fake News""
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:55 pm to Foy
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:55 pm to bonhoeffer45
quote:Well, there is a difference between what you "consider to be the breaking of national security protocol" and the law.
No I consider both to be the breaking of national security protocol
If......and it is a BIG "IF"!......If Trump actually did this, he used HORRIBLE judgement. However, he probably did not break the law.
IMO, that would provide no solace.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:55 pm to cajunangelle
quote:
“The president and the foreign minister reviewed common threats from terrorist organizations to include threats to aviation,” said H.R. McMaster, the national security adviser, who participated in the meeting. “At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed, and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly.”
From McMaster who was in the room...
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:57 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Trump actually did this, he used HORRIBLE judgement.
Are you saying if he shared Intel on a common enemy or something similar, it was horrible judgement, regardless of content? Or are you referencing some specific claim beyond that?
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:57 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:
NYT says they talked to the source.
I was personally present and part of those talks. I heard the NYT reporter talking on his phone and saying he was going to make up a bunch of bullsheet and fake a recording. I could tell you who was there and could back up my claim, but they have to remain anonymous for security reasons. I'm sure you understand.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:57 pm to Foy
A quote from the WaPo:
How the frick does Obama's people know about the contents of a meeting that took place in a classified setting? I am assuming the meeting took place in a secured room.
Fox is reporting that only 4 Americans were in the room:
Trump
Tillerson
Dina Powell
McMaster
All of these people have released statements saying it never happened. So, I ask, who are these "former" officials that supposedly have the scoop and how the hell would they know?
Let's assume it's true. Then that would mean one of two things:
1) Tillerson, Powell or McMaster is an Obama mole
2) Obama still has people working for him in the IC and they somehow listened in to the conversation (NSA, CIA, whatever).
quote:
President Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials
How the frick does Obama's people know about the contents of a meeting that took place in a classified setting? I am assuming the meeting took place in a secured room.
Fox is reporting that only 4 Americans were in the room:
Trump
Tillerson
Dina Powell
McMaster
All of these people have released statements saying it never happened. So, I ask, who are these "former" officials that supposedly have the scoop and how the hell would they know?
Let's assume it's true. Then that would mean one of two things:
1) Tillerson, Powell or McMaster is an Obama mole
2) Obama still has people working for him in the IC and they somehow listened in to the conversation (NSA, CIA, whatever).
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:58 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Oh, let's be crystal clear.
If ... If ... If ... If ... If ... If ... If ... If ... If Trump actually did this, he screwed up bigtime. That's easy! No question about it. Unfortunately, the WashPo is not a credible source. Nor are its goto leakers.
Well we're going to end up knowing whether this leak in particular is credible IMO, as it demands action by both houses. Providing oversight of the executive branch is the Congress' job, now let's see if they can do it.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:58 pm to bonhoeffer45
quote:
No I consider both to be the breaking of national security protocol
What you consider doesn't amount to a hill of beans. You simply do NOT know what you're talking about.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:59 pm to pmacattack
quote:
Laura Ingraham
@IngrahamAngle
WH source with direct knowledge just told me @washingtonpost didn't talk to ANY U.S. official at mtg w/ Lavrov. "It's Fake News"
Unimpossible! We were already told by posters in this thread that the Post went to extremes to vet this story.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:59 pm to AUstar
quote:
All of these people have released statements saying it never happened. So, I ask, who are these "former" officials that supposedly have the scoop and how the hell would they know?
Let's assume it's true. Then that would mean one of two things:
1) Tillerson, Powell or McMaster is an Obama mole
2) Obama still has people working for him in the IC and they somehow listened in to the conversation (NSA, CIA, whatever).
Because apparently McMaster or his ilk felt the need to start making calls to agencies afterwards. Once one person outside the room knows, who knows who knows?
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:00 pm to AUstar
quote:
"former" officials
Petraus
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:00 pm to rds dc
Last week the vice president claimed something on Tuesday that the president directly and openly contradicted on Thursday.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:01 pm to GRTiger
quote:Regardless of the content of the information, if it gives away a valuable source, yes it was horrible judgment. If it was a partner's intelligence who didn't authorize us to share it with Russia (or anyone else) yes it was horrible judgment, and likely will endanger that sharing relationship.
Are you saying if he shared Intel on a common enemy or something similar, it was horrible judgement, regardless of content? Or are you referencing some specific claim beyond that?
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:02 pm to Foy
Another nothing burger. Lol
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:02 pm to AUstar
quote:
All of these people have released statements saying it never happened. So, I ask, who are these "former" officials that supposedly have the scoop and how the hell would they know?
Russian spies leaking the info to their former partners in Obama's admin. As the dem law of projection goes, since Trump and Russia are being linked, undoubtedly it means Obama and Russia are linked.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:03 pm to cajunangelle
quote:Their story quotes McMaster giving a non-denial
Laura Ingraham on Twitter: "WH source with direct knowledge just told me @washingtonpost didn't talk to ANY U.S. official at mtg w/ Lavrov. "It's Fake News""
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:03 pm to CptBengal
quote:
“The president and the foreign minister reviewed common threats from terrorist organizations to include threats to aviation,” said H.R. McMaster, the national security adviser, who participated in the meeting. “At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed, and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly.”
From McMaster who was in the room...
These people are so busy frothing at the mouth to get POTUS Trump out of there they are making crap up with more sauces.
There is protocol in place that if (especially a POTUS never in government) did accidently wonder in talk (they all do this especially WJC) McMasters and others wouild have rushed POTUS faster than anyone can blink an eye. There is protocol in place. Especially with POTUS Trump's first Russian meeting. Notice NT isn't in here piling on. This is why, even he knows.
Wash Post should never be trusted again to do anything but line bird cages.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:04 pm to AUstar
quote:If there's a mitigation effort ongoing at one or more agencies, obviously the contents of the Oval Office discussion are no longer contained to Trump, his Russian buddies, and the four senior aides in the room. Open source is reporting that the WH has been in contact with at least two agencies (the big name ones) about the issue.
How the frick does Obama's people know about the contents of a meeting that took place in a classified setting? I am assuming the meeting took place in a secured room. Fox is reporting that only 4 Americans were in the room: Trump Tillerson Dina Powell McMaster All of these people have released statements saying it never happened. So, I ask, who are these "former" officials that supposedly have the scoop and how the hell would they know?
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:05 pm to GRTiger
quote:
I consider this a stupid position in this case, since you don't know if it's true, nor do you know what was communicated
Same could be said for the content of the deleted emails. Or the intent behind them. One could even point out that private servers were a broken protocol going back into the Bush administration. But that has never satisfied the partisans.
The farcical angle Trumpkins are taking right now is so thickly laid on you can only laugh. "Lets wait for all the information to come out before we pass judgement on Trump's judgement." LOL
In truth, I imagine Trump heard some shite in a briefing, forgot the classified nature and let it slip out in casual conversation. What the nature and full extent of that slip is, and why our partners didn't want it shared, we don't know, but the fact we have a president that was so ill-prepared and let something like this happen to the Russians of all people, is just
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