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re: Trump realizing maybe not best to deport the good workers

Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:54 am to
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:54 am to
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Froman


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super crazy liberal


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Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:57 am to
Anyone here illegally is a criminal.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
13606 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:59 am to
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IvoryBillMatt


I want to make another point that I missed earlier.

USA doesn't owe anything to non citizens. We can't fit the world's population in our borders.

As I was going back and forth with you, I realized I ceded this point and I shouldn't have. Figuring out how to ease the paths of those who broke our laws, out of "compassion" is leftist framing and I need to push back on that.

I don't doubt your own concern or compassion... but do remember a country is thus BECAUSE of borders and citizenship. Making allowances for even seemingly "benign" invasion weakens our nation.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:59 am to
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It looks like the dims had a point with their “TACO” comments.


Well on the subject of that. Everytime he flops like a flounder on that shite, the stock market reacts accordingly and goes green. Whenever he talks like a frickin' tough guy, it goes red.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295194 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:01 pm to
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Well on the subject of that. Everytime he flops like a flounder on that shite, the stock market reacts accordingly and goes green. Whenever he talks like a frickin' tough guy, it goes red.


Absolutely.

Donny is the king of unforced errors. I wonder if he doesnt do this on purpose so he can crow when the market returns to where it previously was.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:04 pm to
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Businesses hiring illegal workers should be shut down.

THEY are 90% of the problem. If it's illegal for someone to work in this country or even enter without the proper documents then it should be equally if not more illegal for a business to employ them. I'm sure it is, but once again, we pick and choose the laws we follow and enforce in this country. Trump is a hypocrite if he excludes anyone who is here illegally from being deported.


Well that shite's not gonna happen, and when you see some token raid of a business or construction site or whatever. You need to ask yourself what politician the owners pissed off.

That shite doesn't happen to the business owner who donated to the right politician.

And to the second part. Well frick yeah he's a hypocrite.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26169 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:04 pm to
Trump changes positions like the wind.

Yesterday they were going to deport them all. He campaigned on the largest mass deportation in history.

Now they are going to keep the good workers. Does that mean amnesty for them?

One day he is going to walk from Ukraine.

The next week he is railing about Putin.

One day he is going to bomb Iran

The next week he says they are close to a deal and he doesn't want to bomb.

Very confusing and all over the place.

Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8113 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:05 pm to
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USA doesn't owe anything to non citizens. We can't fit the world's population in our borders.

As I was going back and forth with you, I realized I ceded this point and I shouldn't have. Figuring out how to ease the paths of those who broke our laws, out of "compassion" is leftist framing and I need to push back on that.

I don't doubt your own concern or compassion... but do remember a country is thus BECAUSE of borders and citizenship. Making allowances for even seemingly "benign" invasion weakens our nation.


You totally missed my point. I wasn't arguing for an easier path. I was just wondering about your suggestion that they could get it together to apply for legal status.

I was asking HOW they can do that once they enter illegally? The only thing I can think of is by applying for asylum, which has to be done within one year of entry.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11211 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:05 pm to
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Going after legal immigrants, foreign college students, and hard working illegals working


No one is targeting legal immigrants, there is collateral damage under every law in our country. Innocent people sometimes go to jail. You don't stop enforcing the law because of it.

Foreign college students who are protesting I our country and taking over university peopery and building should be deported. They have no right to be here. "Hard working illegals" can more easily be described as "illegals". I work hard every day, do I get to pick and choose what laws I follow?

Congratulations, you are retarded.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:05 pm to
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This is what I voted for



GTFO


Well you're not gonna get it.
Posted by Warrior Court
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2022
3710 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:06 pm to
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Very confusing and all over the place.


Are the Haitians still eating cats?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77916 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:07 pm to
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He needs to protect construction as well. Like I said to some of you other mouthbreathing dipshits on here, white/black people aren't coming back to general labor no matter how much you yip and yap about it.

When ICE pulls up to a construction site and arrests everybody, what do you think happens? You think the GC is like "Finally - I guess it's time to hire all the white dudes...".
And? The market can't correct this issue?
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
13606 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:07 pm to
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You totally missed my point. I wasn't arguing for an easier path. I was just wondering about your suggestion that they could get it together to apply for legal status.


Okay... I'm just trying to be more aware when I'm discussing/debating things on dubious ground.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35360 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:08 pm to
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This is not good. We must protect our Farmers, but get the CRIMINALS OUT OF THE USA. Changes are coming!

If they're here illegally, they're criminals.

Wake up, Donny. They're taking jobs that the American unemployed could be doing, and by defaul that causes an unnecessary burden on our welfare and entitlement systems.

I have absolutely NO PROBLEM with people who entered the USA legally through the proper channels and wish to embrace our culture and contribute to society. If you jumped the border to work illegally and send money back to your family in MX so they can afford to pay the cartels to get them here illegally, I do NOT support you or want you here.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:09 pm to
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Do you support mass deportation?


That's a fantasy and has been from day one. At the current rate of deportation. Trump might deport 1.5 million by the time his term ends. There are between 11 million and 30 million illegals in this country.

He shut down the border. Anyone who believes anything more will happen isn't grounded in reality.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 12:10 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
106924 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:11 pm to
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Liberal Arts DEI graduates are going to need jobs soon.


They can’t ALL be baristas.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:11 pm to
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Don’t puss out now.


He's not pussing out. He never intended to mass deport to begin with. MAGA got suckered.

Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
1571 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:11 pm to
Trumps background in the actual world of business allows him to see the necessity of quckly making an adjustment on the fly. Anyone who has ever run their own business knows what Trump is doing in this situation.
We are very lucky to have Trump as our president.
Making lemonade out of Biden's and his fellow dimtards lemons.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:13 pm to
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If they’re here illegally they are criminals.


Donald Trump is Ike to MAGA's Tina. He promises change but delivers disappointment.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
106924 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:13 pm to
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How do hotels pay their employees without paperwork?


Well you see, there’s this table, and under this table a lot things can happen which the government chooses not to see.
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