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Trump policy on Israel and Ukraine
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:45 pm
So its said by his supporters and himself that the attack on Ukraine and Israel would not have occurred on his watch. Thats debatable imo but we are past that now and if he is elected he may be dealing with a wider conflict in the middle east and the continuing war in Ukraine.
I really dont have a clue as to how he will engage in these conflicts. On one hand he seems to want to play to the America First crowd in his speeches that while not strictly isolationist certainly lean that way. On the other hand he has shown a willing ness to use and certainly threatens to use American military force when necessary. So how do you all see him engaging in these matters? Will it be much different than Biden and how so?
I really dont have a clue as to how he will engage in these conflicts. On one hand he seems to want to play to the America First crowd in his speeches that while not strictly isolationist certainly lean that way. On the other hand he has shown a willing ness to use and certainly threatens to use American military force when necessary. So how do you all see him engaging in these matters? Will it be much different than Biden and how so?
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:47 pm to ThuperThumpin
He will continue to fund both, especially Israel. Their welfare payments will probably increase significantly.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:48 pm to ThuperThumpin
It’s not debatable. They didn’t happen on his watch.
Countries knew not to frick around with him because he wasn’t a traditional politician. He was viewed as dangerous to our adversaries.
Countries knew not to frick around with him because he wasn’t a traditional politician. He was viewed as dangerous to our adversaries.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:50 pm to ThuperThumpin
Ukraine is going to wind up with a deal agreeing to Russia keeping what it has and it doesn't matter who the U.S. President is.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:51 pm to Stidham8
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Countries knew not to frick around with him because he wasn’t a traditional politician. He was viewed as dangerous to our adversaries.
I dont disagree but if unless he was bluffing that means he was willing to what? Unleash hell on Russia or Iran?
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:51 pm to ThuperThumpin
Trump wouldn't do much different on Israel. He has said Biden is not supportive enough. But, other than saying a few mean things to Bibi, Biden hasn't restrained Israel whatsoever.
I have no idea about Ukraine, but Trump is saying they need more aid, which is not a good sign for the non-interventionists.
I have no idea about Ukraine, but Trump is saying they need more aid, which is not a good sign for the non-interventionists.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:52 pm to Stidham8
He would have bombed Israel to stop the genocide.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:53 pm to ThuperThumpin
Russia and Ukraine was simmering and some shite going on since 2014. I think he would have had a bit of sway but who knows.
Hamas? He wouldn’t have stopped that. Iran and hamas hated what he set in place with peace in the ME.
We would be in a better place for sure but no clue he could have really stopped either.
Hamas? He wouldn’t have stopped that. Iran and hamas hated what he set in place with peace in the ME.
We would be in a better place for sure but no clue he could have really stopped either.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:00 pm to Stidham8
I believe there may be substance to his stance that you've chosen to ignore.
Money no longer "given" but in the form of a loan. Ukraine on a very short lease. Produce or learn to speak Russian. (Most do already)
Money no longer "given" but in the form of a loan. Ukraine on a very short lease. Produce or learn to speak Russian. (Most do already)
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:02 pm to ThuperThumpin
Those wars would end Jan 29th of 2025
End of money to them
End of thread
End of money to them
End of thread
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:03 pm to ThuperThumpin
Trump will continue to support Ukraine and Israel.
The difference is Trump could plausibly negotiate a cease fire in Ukraine and will stand up to Iran. Biden won’t do either.
The difference is Trump could plausibly negotiate a cease fire in Ukraine and will stand up to Iran. Biden won’t do either.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:07 pm to SDVTiger
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End of money to them
End of the money does not necessarily mean end to the fighting in either situation.... just some of our involvement. For little while anyway.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:15 pm to Stidham8
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It’s not debatable. They didn’t happen on his watch.
Lol. You simpleton.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:21 pm to Damone
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He will continue to fund both, especially Israel. Their welfare payments will probably increase significantly.
Please don't use the term "welfare".
Many of those who oppose many welfare payments in the U.S. (and rightly so) wholeheartedly support payments to Israel.
What boggles my mind is that they are not even on AIPAC's payroll like our politicians.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:22 pm to ThuperThumpin
Neocons like Ben Shapiro feel that trump will green light Israel’s war objectives but isn’t trump supposed to be an America first anti war guy?
I would rather have Biden stay if it means israel dragging us into a war they can’t win without us
I would rather have Biden stay if it means israel dragging us into a war they can’t win without us
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:22 pm to Stidham8
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Countries knew not to frick around with him because he wasn’t a traditional politician. He was viewed as dangerous to our adversaries.
Just like Reagan. The USSR stopped what was called 'adventurism' that was going on when Carter was president. They knew Carter was a pussy.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:24 pm to BayouBlitz
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Lol. You simpleton.
Here's the thing, I dont think he is entirely wrong that fear of Trump's unpredictability and madman image did keep some bad actors at bay...but what does that mean moving forward? And how do his supporters square peace through strength with America First?
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:25 pm to ThuperThumpin
He'll cut Ukraine off like a crackhead son-in-law.
He'll tell Israel to do what they need to do but hurry it up.
He'll tell Israel to do what they need to do but hurry it up.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:29 pm to Zach
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Just like Reagan.
Putin aint Brezhnev, Andropov, some dude I cant remember or Gorby. And Trump aint Reagan either.
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