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re: Trump points to ‘cause’ of Ukraine conflict
Posted on 6/21/24 at 7:17 pm to LookSquirrel
Posted on 6/21/24 at 7:17 pm to LookSquirrel
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We elected him to be. If these treasonous bastards took upon themselves to do other than what the CIC wanted, then they committed treason.
The Senate Trial of the first Impeachment was ongoing when this statement was made. This was the Zelenski phone call where Trump wanted an investigation into Biden corruption. It was also when Trump held up the armaments deal with Ukraine.
This pissed off the GOP warhawks.
It was during that trial that GOP power players let Trump know that they would not allow tampering with Ukraine.
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There were indications that some Republican senators conveyed to President Trump that continued interference with Ukraine could jeopardize his standing during the impeachment trial, though this was often communicated subtly rather than as an explicit threat.
According to reports, the concerns shared with Trump by certain GOP senators suggested that further actions perceived as interference or misconduct could potentially sway the trial's outcome or damage the Republican defense strategy. Senators like Lindsey Graham and others who had direct access to Trump were reported to have advised him to refrain from actions that could worsen his position.
While there was no clear, public statement threatening that the Senate trial would turn against him, the subtext of these communications implied that continued problematic behavior might make it harder for Republican senators to defend him and could risk losing the necessary votes to ensure his acquittal.
That's why Popeo was out there talking the deep state line . Had Trump stopped him from affirming the move towards NATO membership, it is possible he would have been convicted.
Basically Pompeo was in charge
This post was edited on 6/21/24 at 7:24 pm
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 7:28 pm to Wednesday
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Victoria Nuland:
Everything about that woman is the embodiment of Deep State corruption.
Along with our nation’s wholly corrupted alphabet intelligence agencies, Foggy Bottom represents some of the most compromised elements in the Deep State.
Hunter Biden’s dirty dealings with Burisma were enabled by deeply embedded State Department apparatchiks.
Joe Biden adviser had contact with Burisma during height of corruption probe, emails show…
Hunter Biden's team arranged for a senior Burisma Holdings executive to meet with one of Joe Biden's advisers at the State Department a decade ago, just months after the Ukrainian energy firm's owner was targeted in a high-profile and U.S.-backed corruption investigation, according to documents secretly gathered years ago by the FBI. The elder Biden was vice president at the time.
The documents, obtained by Just the News, chronicle a plan in summer and fall 2014 to connect Burisma executive Vadym Pozharskyi with then-State Department energy adviser Amos Hochstein, now a Middle East envoy for President Joe Biden. It was facilitated by the law firm that employed Hunter Biden at the time, Boies Schiller Flexner.
Hunter Biden himself was directly involved in the outreach, at one point helping to forward a direct number for Hochstein to facilitate a follow-up…
Posted on 6/21/24 at 7:45 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Bunk Moreland
Pompeo is “Exhibit A” as to why any vote for in this UniParty® charade is ultimately a vote for the left or right wing of the CIA.
Like anyone who is appointed and approved by Congress for a cabinet level position, Pompeo’s primary mission when he served as both CIA Director & SoS was to promote the legitimacy of our nation’s wholly corrupt national security apparatus above all other considerations.
And nothing will fundamentally change that reality no matter who wins in 2024.
This post was edited on 6/21/24 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 6/21/24 at 7:49 pm to Jebadeb
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Ridiculous. I guess the invasion and occupation of Crimea was also because of rhetoric?
No. Russia took Crimea after the CIA/Nuland coup which destroyed democracy in Ukraine. Russia saw the CIA making its move to take over Ukraine and to turn the most corrupt country on earth into a NATO member and decided to secure Crimea to thwart the open plans of NATO/CIA which is to take over Russia and divide it into separate regions to extract its resources
You're a simpleton.
This post was edited on 6/21/24 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 6/21/24 at 7:55 pm to LookSquirrel
Somehow that conflict comes back to us. And now, what is the saying about putting the genie in the bottle?
Posted on 6/21/24 at 7:57 pm to LookSquirrel
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the NATOization of Finland
Well, he was right.
Posted on 6/21/24 at 7:57 pm to Jack Carter
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CIA/Nuland coup
Victoria Nuland is the personification of a cold blooded swamp critter: a largely anonymous, unelected and unaccountable Deep State apparatchik who welds enormous power in determining the Foreign Policy Agenda of the United States.
This article from March 2015, written in the aftermath of the CIA sponsored Euromaidan Uprising, discuses the war profiteers behind the putsch.
Whatever your opinion of Russia or Putin, anyone who denies the outsized influence of the Kagan-Nuland clan in determining the foreign policy agenda of the United States in the region is 1.) either ignorant or 2.) a Deep State propagandist.
I have posted this before and will no doubt post it again:
A Family Business of Perpetual War: Victoria Nuland and Robert Kagan have a great mom-and-pop business going. From the State Department, she generates wars and from op-ed pages he demands Congress buy more weapons. There’s a pay-off, too, as grateful military contractors kick in money to think tanks where other Kagans work
Neoconservative pundit Robert Kagan and his wife, Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, run a remarkable family business: she has sparked a hot war in Ukraine and helped launch Cold War II with Russia and he steps in to demand that Congress jack up military spending so America can meet these new security threats.
This extraordinary husband-and-wife duo makes quite a one-two punch for the Military-Industrial Complex, an inside-outside team that creates the need for more military spending, applies political pressure to ensure higher appropriations, and watches as thankful weapons manufacturers lavish grants on like-minded hawkish Washington think tanks….
Posted on 6/21/24 at 7:59 pm to LookSquirrel
It’s a border dispute that’s none of our business. But the MIC must be fed…plus it’s not like Americans are dying, just some Russians/Ukrainians. So everyone’s happy.
Posted on 6/21/24 at 7:59 pm to bird35
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We provoked this war when we withdrew troops from Afghanistan.
I'd go back to the Russian's entrance into Syria. That was Obama right?
Posted on 6/21/24 at 8:37 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
I believe that the true reason is because democrat presidents are strong on issuing red lines and saying I told Putin “don’t”, but don’t follow through. Putin knew Obama wouldn’t act if he went into crimea and they knew Biden wouldn’t do anything if they went after Ukraine.
Posted on 6/21/24 at 9:07 pm to JCdawg
Oof
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:23 pm to LookSquirrel
lol wut? Hungary doesn’t offer shite, and they just gained the swedes, fins, while Poland is set to be the biggest military in EU within a decade or so. Are you a Russian troll?
Also, all those equipment orders are fueling our economy.
Also, all those equipment orders are fueling our economy.
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:50 pm to texasnativevisitor
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Also, all those equipment orders are fueling our economy.
This sounds like something a Soviet would say
Posted on 6/21/24 at 11:03 pm to RiverCityTider
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The Pompeo statement is a perfect example of how Trump wasn't really in charge.
It's a perfect example of a politician playing the middle. He said the US wanted to move Ukraine closer to NATO and the EU while Zelensky was there. He didn’t say he wanted Ukraine to join NATO. It's exactly what you would say if you were trying to support Ukraine without pissing off Russia. That's how you do good foreign policy.
And then Biden came in and started explicitly pushing for Ukraine to join NATO. And then Russia invades. It's not a coincidence.
Posted on 6/21/24 at 11:06 pm to texasnativevisitor
Perpetual war is what it is fueling.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 4:56 am to Jebadeb
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Ridiculous. I guess the invasion and occupation of Crimea was also because of rhetoric?
No, it was because NATO, led by the Obama Administration and Hilary Clinton orchestrated the overthrow the legitimately elected government of the Ukraine in 2013 in order to appease EU oil and gas providers and the illegitimate puppet government that was installed threatened Russia’s Naval Base as Savastapol.
All of this has been clearly documented and reported on around the world but US news outlets refused to report and simply went with the “Russians are bad” narrative.
But it’s cool because the Clintons made upwards of 25 million in kickbacks from Ukraine Oligarchs on the deal.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:12 am to LookSquirrel
Joe Biden - Jan 19, 2022 - "I think what you're going to see is that Russia will be held accountable if it invades. And it depends on what it does. It's one thing if it's a minor incursion and then we end up having a fight about what to do and not do."
when Biden gave Putin the signal that at least some invasion would be tolerated, it was a fait accompli - what an ijit
when Biden gave Putin the signal that at least some invasion would be tolerated, it was a fait accompli - what an ijit
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 7:51 am
Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:23 am to Jebadeb
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Ridiculous. I guess the invasion and occupation of Crimea was also because of rhetoric?
And the 2008 invasion of Georgia, which they still occupy.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:27 am to LookSquirrel
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Trump points to ‘cause’ of Ukraine conflict
This guy?
Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:28 am to RiverCityTider
Hell, that's why the entire impeachment was done - protect the grift in Ukraine.
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